Talk:Self-consciousness

Proposed Merge Self-awareness and Self-consciousness[edit]

Hi Spencerk. What are your reasons? The two terms means wildly different things to me. Particularly consider this quote from the self-consciousness page: "Unlike self-awareness, self-consciousness has connotations of being unpleasant, and is often linked to self-esteem." ॐ Metta Bubble ^puff 08:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss at Talk:Self-awareness#Proposed Merge Self-awareness and Self-consciousness

They are two separate and unique terms.

Don't merge them![edit]

They are completely different things to me. One is sort of a philosophical thing, one is an everyday description of a common emotional state. "I believe I have finally created a robot that is self-aware! muhahahah!" vs. "do these pants make my ass look fat? They make me a bit self-conscious"

If anything, merge consciousness and self-awareness.--Robbrown 07:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

What's with the "I'm watching you" picture? Seems like it should be removed... unsigned comment by User:Jesselnz

I don't see anything wrong with it. It connotes the apparent sensation of the self-conciousness individual. People are always aware of them, and they are 'watching them'.

Apostate 16:55, 08 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That picture creeps me out.

mental disorder[edit]

What about the possible implications to mental disorders possibly caused by extreme cases of self-consciousness? Deepinthought 17:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i would agree with the opinion to not merge these two topics: for me, one (self-aware) refers to a discovery that produces knowledge or enlightment of one's self. the other (self-conscious) is more about a paranoia that might be unfounded and not is necessarily based on any specific knowledge of oneself or others. Mimistar 22:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EXTREME Self-consciousness[edit]

extreme Self-consciousness would lead to paranoi , axiety disorders and possibly love shyness

Merge with self-conscious emotions[edit]

The self-conscious emotions article does not present sufficient information to stand on its own. It should be merged into this article. Neelix (talk) 22:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Acute[edit]

the acute link goes to medical definition of acute and should go to definition of acute in language —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.128.236 (talk) 18:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Self-consciousness as a concept in psychology[edit]

The current article is about the word as it is used in common everyday language. However, this is not the only meaning, as per Websters dictionary, self-consciousness means:

 1.   a : conscious of one's own acts or states as belonging 
   to or originating in oneself : aware of oneself as an   
   individual 
      b : intensely aware of oneself : conscious <a rising and 
   self–conscious social class>; also : produced or done with 
   such awareness <self–conscious art>
 2. : uncomfortably conscious of oneself as an object of the 
   observation of others : ill at ease

In psychology, self-consciousness and self-awareness are more or less the same but for some (e.g Charles S. Carver), self-awareness would be more acute (a "state") whereas self-consciousness would be a more permanent disposition (a "trait"). There is also a distinction between private self-consciousness (paying attention to one's thoughts or feelings, the "inner states") and public self-consciousness (paying attention to how one might appear to others). The former is sometimes divided into internal state awareness (good) and rumination (bad). Etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebatsnok (talk • contribs) 10:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drastically different versions of the article[edit]

I'm concerned by the difference between the current article and that which was deleted several days ago: [1]. While the previous version would profit from expansion, it offered an essentially encyclopedic overview of the topic; its substitution is a doctoral dissertation. I may request input from other editors who are more familiar with the subject. JNW (talk) 17:41, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with you, and I'll revert to the previous version. Lova Falk talk 08:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki links[edit]

I unlinked this article from d:Q238372, because at least a few other articles there are about the self-awareness meant in Mirror test (linked to d:Q1314553). However, the German article is about something explicitly distinguished from the English "self-awareness". --AVRS (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'Self-consciousness' in English and its 'equivalents' (NOT!) in other languages[edit]

The problem is that English - once again the linguistic odd man out! - makes a clear distinction that is not made in other languages between 'self-consciousness' (close to 'embarrassment', and generally perceived as a bad thing) and 'self-awareness', or simply 'awareness' or 'consciousness' (generally perceived as a good thing). When non-native speakers and writers of English use the term, they almost invariably use it (wrongly) in the meaning they know from their own languages, for they are seldom aware of the distinction. The Wikipedia article on 'self-consciousness' wrongly refers readers to terms in other languages (such as Norwegian 'selvbevissthet') that only have the positive, 'self-awareness' meaning. Dutch uses 'zelfbewustzijn' in the same positive meaning, but it also has the adjective 'opgelaten' which means much the same as 'self-conscious' in the negative English sense - but if there were a Dutch-language version of this article I bet it would refer to the positive meaning!213.127.210.95 (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]