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Douglal Thanks for starting this long-overdue article! Many years ago I was involved in another attempt to do this (User:Belovedfreak/Monuments). It never got finished but do have useful content that should be merged into this one. There seems to be some differences between the monuments listed on each. I don't have a lot of time for editing at the moment and adding links from other relevant articles to a list of this length will also take considerable time. I'll try to help where I can. All the best TiB chat 20:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello TiB . Thank you for getting in touch and for sharing the similar work done previously. I will go through User:Belovedfreak/Monuments and incorporate much of it into Scheduled monuments in Lancashire. Cheers, Douglal (talk) 09:28, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again TiB . I have added the monuments for Blackburn & Darwen district (not sure why they weren't in my extract from Historic England's register). I have also added your coordinates, notes and various refs from your draft article. Engine at Padiham Room Power Company was delisted in 2015. Queen Street Mill engine and Grane mill are listed buildings rather than scheduled monuments. I think that our combined effort is pretty damn good! Cheers, Douglal (talk) 12:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Douglal. Blackburn with Darwen is a unitary authority so probably doesn't show under Lancashire. The same is true for Blackpool, but it doesn't have any scheduled monuments. We are getting somewhere with this article, I'm confident it contains all the monuments currently on the Historic England database. The only serious technical issue I can now see is the lack of references. Relying on a link to the HE search page for much of the content is sub-optimal. You will notice that Scheduled monuments in South Yorkshire has a reference for each row of the table, although the missing descriptions in the refs on that article are also not ideal. If we skip the descriptions for now, it would not be a huge task to add refs to this article, I've already done quite a few with descriptions. Do you have the time/inclination to do more work on this? I will keep chipping away at it, but will probably focus on those nearest to me. Thanks again TiB chat 20:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TiB . All done! (nearly) I've just been furiously cutting and pasting in NHLE citations and managed about 130 in under an hour (with some nifty use of Excel on an export from Historic England's register). I think that I've missed a couple for Blackburn ... so please would you do the honours? Cheers, Douglal (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC) aka Trappedintier3buxton[reply]

Wow, that was very fast work. I was expecting a "you do some, I do some" discussion at best. Because I've been putting refs at the end of the Notes fields, and you put them in the Name column, some duplication occurred. I've tidied those, but I don't propose moving the rest at the moment. You probably noticed that some EH records contain very little info, just a note that it was created from and old county number. In some cases a sort description could still be generated from it (see Brooks Farm packhorse bridge), but these are instances where additional sources are most needed. I think the different location of the refs can serve as a handy indicator of which ones have been verified to contain all the info required to properly source all the content of that row. I plan to work through them (time permitting) verify to add descriptions where needed. It would be great if you want to keep working on it also. TiB chat 10:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TiB . Thanks for tidying up the debris from my blitz. If you find the Historic England record blank then I've found that this is a good official source: https://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/gateway/default.aspx Cheers, Douglal (talk) 04:00, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]