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Canadian-American?[edit]

Sandra Oh was born and raised in Canada, and began her career there. On the other hand, her career has largely been based in the United States for most of her adult life, and she is now also a U.S. citizen. I believe that the article should describe her as Canadian-American because that describes her current nationality precisely. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

per WP:STATUSQUO and WP:BRD, please revert the page to its original state while you attempt to gain consensus for your change. You don't get to make the change and then try to justify it here post-hoc once it's been reverted. —Joeyconnick (talk) 08:10, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a conversation about content and I have explained my view of the content matter. I am not the editor who made the change. I am an editor who agrees with the change so I am adding my support to the editor who made the change. The "original state" of the article is irrelevant since Oh became a U.S. citizen in 2018 and discussed her new citizenship while hosting Saturday Night Live in March, 2019. Changing circumstances call for a new consensus. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The change was made by Kay girl 97 on June 13, 2019 and I agree with it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how this works. Whoever made the change, it was reverted by another editor (in this case, me), and so we stick with WP:STATUSQUO until we have hashed it out here. Also, again, obtaining a new citizenship is not sufficient for listing someone as a hyphenate. AGAIN, for that, Oh would need to have an origin that involved significant exposure to both countries; Oh is clearly Canadian by birth, education, upbringing, and initial career/prominence. She could obtain five more citizenships and she still should be listed as "Canadian" because the lead of a biography is not a simple listing of a person's passports but rather a description of their life. Oh's formative personal and professional years were in Canada. It's related to the same reasons we don't call her a "Korean-Canadian" actor.

And so again, please revert your addition of "American" until a consensus has been reached. —Joeyconnick (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not going to revert. Circumstances have changed. Sandra Oh went on nationwide TV in the U.S. in March 2019 and called herself a Canadian American . Self-identification is very important. Two editors favor the change and you oppose, but you have not yet addressed her recent self-identification in her own words. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:35, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

STATUSQUO is part of an essay and is not even a policy or a guideline. STATUSQUO does not apply in this case because the real world situation has changed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh shifting goal posts... I see! This is the first I've heard of any self-identification and, unsurprisingly, it's not sourced and not mentioned in the article, so super-confused as to how anyone is meant to a) know about it or b) address it. You certainly can't use it to argue your point without it actually being sourced and integrated into the article, and people can self-identify all they want—that's not some sort of overriding veto on how they are referred to in an encyclopedia that relies on sources and facts, not just what the person wants to say about themselves. And honestly, one instance of calling oneself a "[blank]" does not necessarily warrant mention in the lead of an article on that person. In fact, there's nothing in the article that actually sources her having obtained US citizenship, so really a case can be made for removing that information all together... until it's properly sourced and mentioned in the article. —Joeyconnick (talk) 20:59, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article already contained a reference to the official Saturday Night Live YouTube channel of the monologue where she makes the self declaration. Clearly, you did not watch her monologue. I have added another reference to an NBC News report that includes the quotation. Easy to find. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the "Personal life" section and current references #36 and #37. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Revisited[edit]

The normal guideline for the intro is to include nationality, which usually equates to citizenship. An IP editor is indicating that she holds triple citizenship in the US, Canada, and South Korea. The first two are adequately sourced, but I'm not finding anything for Korea.

I've put the intro at "Canadian–American" currently, pending more input from editors, particularly experienced editors. I've also tagged the claim of Korean citizenship as needing a citation. —C.Fred (talk) 14:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proper way to indicate notable activities with both nationalities is "Canadian and American". Canadian-American is an ethnicity tag. See MOS:NATIONALITY. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:27, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Activism" section[edit]

I believe we could add a section to this article about Oh's activism/advocacy. I would go ahead and add it, but I feel it's far more productive to discuss it here first so more in-depth coverage can be added. Attached is a relevant article:

Massie, Graeme (March 22, 2021). "Sandra Oh gives speech at Stop Asian Hate rally in Pittsburgh". The Independent. Archived from the original on March 22, 2021. Retrieved March 22, 2021.

Please ping me when you reply. Sean Stephens (talk) 01:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]