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religion section[edit]

I want to edit the religion section to split the long sentence into several short ones. However, I find the sentence confusing, and question its assertion that the majority of the population is shamanist, since a majority are of non-indigenous origin. Can anyone provide a reference, or on the other hand does anyone object to my taking out this assertion and editing/changing the section?

This particular passage has been in the text for quite a while now. While I think the original author meant the majority of indigenous population being shamanist, I can't back it up with sources right away. If you feel the passage is inaccurate, please feel free to take it out.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hearing no objections, and being temporarily in a country that doesn't block Wikipedia, I've made this edit.Syuyohyu 13:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name of legislature[edit]

I can't figure out how to insert the name of the legislature. I leave it for someone more able than I. It's called Il Tymen. I don't know the translation. Ref: YakutiaToday Amanda Graham, Yukon College, Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada

Thank you, I added this information, although the spelling is "Il Tumen" (Ил Тумэн).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Natural Resources[edit]

Wolfram should probably be called tungsten, being more common among English speakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sedenko (talk • contribs) 18:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the statistics for diamond production in the Sakha, and found that Geology.com says Russia's production of gem-quality diamonds is second in the world only to Botswana, and allaboutgemstones.com says that in 2009 Russia's diamond production (not limited to gem-quality stones) constituted 21% of the world's mined diamonds. The Wikipedia article on Alrosa, Russia's largest diamond mining company, also does not list a citation for its claim for production of 25% of the world's rough diamonds. According to a July 2010 article posted by commmodityonline.com, Russia actually produced 28% of the world's diamonds in 2010 (but did not specify whether it was overall production or gem-quality production), even though a March 2012 mining.com article says it hasn't recovered from a precipitous decline in production in 2009 slump yet. The same article states that 2007 was Russia's highest-producing year for diamonds. Unfortunately, while these articles discuss either the number of gem-quality carats or the value of the diamonds, none of them quantify the percentage of production in a world context other than for 2009. Since 2009 is the year Russia experienced an apparently sharp decline in diamond production, it might seem improper to reduce the percentage to 21% on that alone. A summary or abstract of a March 24, 2012 report from marketresearch.com states that Russia is now the largest producer of diamonds, but the actual data and statistics are behind a paywall. A March 23, 2012 article posted on March 23, 2012 article posted on bullionstreet.com says Russia currently produces 21% of the world's diamonds. I suggest that the claim in this Wikipedia article ought to be modified to state both the year and the quantity of production either overall or of a certain type of diamond. I suggest modifying it to 21% based on both the bullionstreet.com article listing 2011 overall production levels and the 2009 percentage of the world's gem-quality diamonds claimed by the allaboutgemstones.com article. I'll do this soon unless there is some objection, and someone finds better statistics. Aramink (talk) 15:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Need article on anthem[edit]

See this link for the anthem. Its title is ГОСУДАРСТВЕННЫЙ ГИМН РЕСПУБЛИКИ САХА (ЯКУТИЯ) (на якутском языке), which would be transliterated GOSUDARSTVENNY GIMN RESPUBLIKI SAKHA (YAKUTIYA) (na yakutskom yazyke). It might be Mongolian or some similar language, in which case it would be transliterated as Saha Öröspüübulükjetin örögöjün yryata. Badagnani (talk) 05:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article can be called Anthem of the Sakha Republic. Badagnani (talk) 16:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

National Anthem of the Sakha Republic is a more accurate translation (and is already (red-)linked from the infobox). Using the external link you provided, however, I don't really see any information about the anthem apart from its lyrics. I could probably dig up the Republic's anthem law, but that wouldn't add much either.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most anthem articles contain only that information--it's a good start. Badagnani (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Time Zones[edit]

Somebody please correct the time zone section of the info table. I can't find where the correction is supposed to be made. The time zones should be YAKT, VLAT, MAGT, and not YAKST, YAKST, MAGST. - JohnnyWiki (talk) 09:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it. Thanks for catching it!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 9, 2012; 16:32 (UTC)

Does anyone have a local news source about a specific date and time that clocks changed due to recent timezone law changes? - Andrewmp (talk) 01:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coastal Length[edit]

What is the coastal length of Sakha Republic? 101.119.16.71 (talk) 13:08, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About 4500 km (http://www.sakha.gov.ru/node/448) contribs (talk) 12:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Semi preciaous stone[edit]

In section Early history the definition of the word yakut has been given as semi precious stone. I don't know Sakha language but in Turkish (which is releted to Sakha language) yakut is ruby, one of the four precious stones. Maybe the sentence needs rewording. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:27, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


ten autonomous Turkic Republics[edit]

"The Sakha Republic is one of the ten autonomous Turkic Republics within the Russian Federation.[12] "

Someone, clean this up. I guess it was written by one of these Pan-Turkic idiots who flood Wiki with this crap. Ogomemnon (talk) 02:15, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why? It is an autonomous republic, moslty inhabited by turks like Tatarstan, Bashkortostan... I am russian and I agree with the author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.249.50.110 (talk) 03:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ө[edit]

This looks like the Greek voiceless dental fricative 'th'. Is it based on that? Or is it some vowel? The Big Hoof! (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Struck out sock. bobrayner (talk) 05:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's indeed a vowel; IPA: [ø].—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 1, 2013; 15:49 (UTC)
Just seen the language article. Many thanks. The Big Hoof! (talk) 19:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Struck out sock. bobrayner (talk) 05:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 1 August 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 15:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sakha Republic → Yakutia – Why is the article called by it's formal name Sakha Republic instead of much more common and colloquial Yakutia? I thought the consensus here on Wikipedia was to go with the most common name (as with examples such as "United States" and "United Kingdom"?)
Taking the data from Google, people search for Yakutia about 6.5 times more often than for Sakha republic[1]. Googling for Sakha Republic there yields 1,680,000 results[2] while googling for Yakutia yields gives back 4,180,000[3] (2.5 times more) and I suspect that this wikipedia article plays a role in such a high number of results for the former, especially since in Russian language (and I am using referring to Russian since I can't testify to usage in English) Sakha republic (Республика Саха) is essentially only used in some official contexts.[4]
P.S. Note that I re-wrote my reasoning to better state my case.

References

  1. ^ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Yakutia,Sakha%20republic
  2. ^ https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=YOdEXZS5H8GU-gSnxKugCQ&q=Sakha+Republic&oq=Sakha+Republic
  3. ^ https://www.google.com/search?ei=bOdEXfmuBJj5-wSvhLrACw&q=Yakutia&oq=Yakutia
  4. ^ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Якутия,Республика%20Саха

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Requested move 27 March 2020[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move buidhe 04:46, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Yakutia → Sakha – Sakha is the general shortform name of its official name, the Sakha Republic. Sakha is the name of the place in the Sakha language, which is spoken by a majority of not just the Sakhalar but also the other minority peoples of the region; these peoples make up a majority of the republic's population, and the percentage will have increased with the new upcoming census this year.

The official renaming of the region from "Yakutia" to "Sakha" was an intentional and political move by the government to highlight its autonomy, with the addition of "Yakutia" in parentheses being a kind of political compromise.[1] Modern scholarly works dealing with the Sakhalar such as Siberian Village by Bella Jordan and Terry Bychkov-Jordan and Words like Birds by Jenanne Ferguson also call the place Sakha.

There are constantly more searches on Google for "Sakha" rather than "Yakutia."[2] Sakha yields nearly 7 million results on Google,[3] whereas Yakutia yields 5 million.[4] Google Ngram shows that "Sakha" has more than twice the usage of "Yakutia" in books, with "Sakha" being the preferred term since shortly after the republic's renaming to the indigenous "Sakha."[5] JSTOR has 2500 results for "Sakha,"[6] but only 1600 results for "Yakutia."[7]

Modern visits by the Sakhalar in places also have them being called "Sakha," such as when delegations from Sakha visited Fort Ross in California.[8]

References

  1. ^ Balzer, Marjorie Mandelstam; Vinokurova, Uliana Alekseevna (January 1996). "Nationalism, Interethnic Relations and Federalism: The Case of the Sakha Republic (Yakutia)". Europe-Asia Studies. 48 (1): 103.
  2. ^ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Yakutia,Sakha
  3. ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sakha
  4. ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=yakutia
  5. ^ https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Yakutia+is%2CSakha+is&year_start=1988&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CYakutia%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CSakha%20is%3B%2Cc0
  6. ^ https://www-jstor-org.proxy.library.georgetown.edu/action/doBasicSearch?Query=sakha
  7. ^ https://www-jstor-org.proxy.library.georgetown.edu/action/doBasicSearch?Query=yakutia
  8. ^ https://www.fortross.org/sakha-story.htm
Arumdaum (talk) 16:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Anarchyte (talk | work) 12:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I prefer "Yakutia" since it is the recognized name for Lexico.com, which is powered by the scholarly Oxford Dictionaries and co-operated by Dictionary.com and the highly-respected Oxford University Press - see [1] vs. [2] . Nevertheless I leave to other editors about this matter. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 00:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Ruby[edit]

Doesn't the word Yakut come from the Perso-Arabic word یاقوت (Yaghoot) which means ruby? Aminabzz (talk) 01:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. Find a proof first. No speculations until then. 94.245.131.161 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of the word Sakha[edit]

The article currently claims that the word Sakha is of Turkic origin, without providing any citations. While the local Sakha people in this region are of Turkic ethnicity, I have to wonder if Sakha is really based on the word Saka or Scythian which refers to a Eurasian (not Turkic) tribe that inhabited the steppes, to the West, in ancient times. Until someone can verify this, I am going to indicate that a citation is needed in the articleXoltron (talk) 11:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 27 November 2023[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sakha → Sakha Republic – The word Sakha by itself refers to the "Sakha language". The word individually is used in the sense of "Sakha language" in recent linguistic scholarship, which tends to favor the endonym "Sakha" instead of the term "Yakut" (an exonym). So it is more proper to rename the article to "Sakha Republic". Yokubjon Juraev (talk) 20:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 17:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry to say this but, why not rather request the target for "Sakha language" (currently Yakut language) to be reverted back to that title. However recent it is to be in the fore to be known as your suggested title target, the lead section in-article says otherwise with its official name. What's more, WP thrives on common, concise, precise names. If that is done, there would be little doubt this would go ahead un-objected. Intrisit (talk) 15:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Yokubjon Juraev: Since this page has been subject to two RMs, most recently in 2020, it isn't uncontroversial to move it elsewhere... Please press the "discuss" button above if you wish to proceed with this request.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, with Sakha (disambiguation) moving to Sakha. No primary topic; see Sakha people and Sakha language. 162 etc. (talk) 17:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support, although I'm still not 100% convinced on Sakha Republic v. Republic of Sakha. O.N.R. (talk) 23:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but... same as O.N.R with a conflict of Sakha Republic and Republic of Sakha. Changed my stance upon an RM appearing here, as days ago the contents of this page in/at the mainspace put me off. Intrisit (talk) 17:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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