Talk:Saint Anne

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Virgin birth[edit]

Is it true that the immaculate conception was rejected in 1677? This conflicts with what we have in the immaculate conception article. I'm not sure which is right, maybe both are, but the two stories should match. Wesley

What was denied was that Mary was the virgin birth of Mary. Changing article. Rmhermen 11:48 Aug 20, 2002 (PDT)
Thanks Rmhermen. That makes sense. Wesley

Saints[edit]

I need a ruling on this: I think it would be better to put all info on "Anna also known as Saint Anne" onto a page Saint Anne. (This Is The English Language Wikipedia TM, yadda yadda) (Other saints are under Saint Whatever). What say you all?

I agree. this should be a disambiguation page referring readers to Saint Anne, any Queen Anne that may exist (I think there is one), the Arabana tribe of Australian aborigines (who are also called Anna) and... that's all I can think of right now. Tokerboy 20:55 Nov 1, 2002 (UTC)
The conversation was continued at Talk:Anna#Disambiguation. Graham87 06:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last sentence[edit]

Last sentence: "In the 4th and 15th centuries, a belief arose that Mary was born of Anna by virgin birth. This was denied as an error by the Vatican in 1677."

Should this read "In the 14th and 15th centuries..."? the 14th would be more accurite

Also does anyone know why St Anne is commonly depicted wearing red and green robes?

Anichan 22:00, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is a biased assertment, is it not?[edit]

"Families that are truly Christian love the Family of Nazareth, but they also honor the parents of Mary, especially Saint Anne who bore and gave birth to her. How glorious to give birth to one who would be the Mother of God! May we who have devotion to you, Saint Anne, obtain even more devotion to Mary and the greatest devotion to Christ, your grandson. Amen"

The above text is found at the bottom of the box on the right of the article. Is this a quote from somewhere, or is this just something someone stuck in?

-kuroineko13-[[User:216.54.213.68|FUCK!!!!!!!!!WooooooW that is soooo mest up right? U shouldnt do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Who caninized saint anne? IDK I'll find out........ aaah herself? maybe idk!???

Image proposal[edit]

St. Anne, fresco from Faras, VIII century

Please consider putting this image as a main ilustration of the article. This is one of oldest paintings of St. Anne. A.J. 11:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No objections? So I'll make an edit. 217.153.206.146 11:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Life[edit]

I think, St. Anne has lived in the Bretagne, didn´t she? When I was there, I heared that. - 21.08.07, 18:23 Uhr —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.77.237.143 (talk) 16:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

statues[edit]

I'm parking "more elaborate carved statuettes open up to reveal Mary inside Anna with Christ in turn inside her" here for now, as though it sounds highly plausible, I can't find references - such works must be pretty rare. Johnbod (talk) 16:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seven heads of Saint Anne[edit]

I heard that in the Middle Ages, her head was supposedly preserved in over seven different locations simultaneously, and that the Catholic Church formally recognised them all! Might be a little something to add. 92.11.124.93 (talk) 23:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just seen this in an episode of QI, so it must be true! Dave-ros (talk) 20:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St. Anne's feast[edit]

Bottom of the page says "saint ann is lovery" What's that supposed to mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.199.115 (talk) 19:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was just vandalism or a test edit. I've removed it. Thanks for bring it to attention. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! How come the feast of St. Anne is celebrated on the 9th of December in many countries? For example, in Sweden (protestants) and in Greece (eastern orthodox church) we celebrate St. Anne in December and not in July as this article states. Do Catholics celebrate St. Anne another day? Maybe we should clarify the dates of the feasts? Pel thal (talk) 21:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Pel Thal. I'm looking at one source (Saints in Art, by Rosa Giorgi, published by the Getty Museum) that lists St. Anne's feast day as "July 26 in the West, July 25 in the East," and another (Icons and Saints of the Eastern Orthodox Church, by Alfredo Tradigo, also published by the Getty) in which Joachim and Anne share a feast day on September 9, while the conception of Anne is celebrated December 9. I imagine all these dates have a certain validity depending on locality, but I'm not sure how we can be more specific than that, unless we can find a source that explains it better. wow people these daysKafka Liz (talk) 01:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see... Maybe we could make a catalogue (that is an infobox of some sort!) with all the dates where we state e.g. what is celebrated on each day and in which branch of Christian religion. That would provide an overall picture. The only thing is that I'm useless at making infoboxes... Cheers! Pel thal (talk) 17:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let me see what I can find out. I've had a tough time in general finding sources on this particular detail... Cheers, Kafka Liz (talk) 11:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Honorific "Saint" in article title[edit]

With respect, wondering if the honorific "Saint" is specific to Catholicism, whereas Protestants and other Christians might recognize and revere Anne without necessarily referring to her sainthood. Also wondering if referring to Anne by this honorific is consistent with WP:MOS, and consistent with the manner of reference applied to other religious figures. -Aquib (talk) 04:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Patronage of turesesners[edit]

Saint Anne is said to be the patron of turesesners. Is that a real word? I can't find a definition for it anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.241.201 (talk) 19:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not--I've removed it. Thanks for catching it. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 22:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Emerentia[edit]

No mention in this article of St Anne's mother, who I understand was Emerentia. Nor is Emerentia featured in any article on WP. This seems to be a big oversight, both for this article and for WP as a whole. Anyone up for creating an article on Emerentia, or adding a section here? Riversider (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pagan Roots[edit]

Just wanted to suggest adding something about St. Anne's relation to the Pagan goddess Anu. Some think that St. Anne was adopted from this mother goddess of fertility. "In Christendom, the lady usually took on the guise of St. Anne, however, in order to smooth the path of conversion. This saint’s popularity in Brittany probably stems from the previous worship of the Celtic Goddess there. Anu was also the patroness of springs and fountains, hence the numerous St. Anne’s Wells throughout Britain today." (from www.thesacredpaths.com/village/2008/03/06/anu-celtic-goddess-of-fertility/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.26.39 (talk) 02:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mother! Godmother![edit]

I was shocked to hear that Anne was Mary's mother and Jesus' grandmother — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.174.95.101 (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you shocked?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:CC39:A325:6901:5C3B (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

wow! whatd u think tht meant🙄🙄 174.26.95.234 (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anne, Anna or Anne Elizabeth, Hebrew Hannah[edit]

In doing some research do to some other works I have found that one needs to look at all books of the scriptures. Anna is mentioned in the New Testaments St Luke 2:36 And there was one Anna, A Prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe Aser:she was of great age,and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity. 2:37 And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the Temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. 2:38 And she coming in that instant gave thanks to the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

She is mentioned again the in the book titled LOST BOOKS OF THE BIBLE by William Hone as the mother of Mary. Mary's father being Joachim of Galilee and the city of Nazareth and Anna of Bethlehem. As mentioned in the first chapter verse 1 and 2.

The tribe ASER.. modern ASHER was assigned by Joshua to Western Galilee one of the 10 lost tribes of Israel.

So conclusions since Anna father was of Aser which is where the House of David was from so then both parents were from the House of DAVID.. SO the Jews were angry for that very reason. Remember the part when of thy sons shall leave thy mother and father an d take up with the chosen wives family so Jochium being of the house of ..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.172.50 (talk) 15:12, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Venerated in ALL Christianity?[edit]

I am sure Anne is worshiped (venerated) in Roman Catholicism and in various Eastern Churches, but, as a Baptist I can confirm that we do not "venerate" any Saint, according to the New Testament, after all, we are all saints, our praise and honor is to God and His Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary did not merit the Lord to grace her womb, she was a sinner as we all, yet honored by God in the way she was, she no doubt had and has many virtues, but neither her, nor Anne, nor Joseph, Paul, Peter or any of our predecessors in Christ is to be "venerated" prayed to or worshiped in any way. You could title that the "Baptist position" or more widely, and probably less accurately the "Protestant position" as well, we believe this simply to be the doctrine of the Word of God.

Therefore Anne is not venerated in "All Christianity", unless Baptists and every Protestant Church are not Christians at all, (excepting the various national and liturgical Lutheran, Anglican and Presbyterian churches which observe feast days and such for "special saints.")LikkerdySplit (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Feast day[edit]

I cannot get a handle on when the Orthodox churches think her feast day is at all. It doesn't help that no source I can find says if it is using the Revised Julian calendar or the Julian calendar. The Dormition of Saint Anna is the 25th July (which 25th July?), but some sites then say her feast day is September the 9th. I would be happy to see a cited edit but feel that uncited dates should continue to be removed. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:47, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

i think that would be better if the Article Merge with Joachim, Wikipedia already has articles for multiple people, such as Cain and Abel, Adam and Eve and Ananias and Sapphira. the Content Could Be Better If was Joachim and Anne — Preceding unsigned comment added by CatechismDatabase (talk • contribs) 16:23, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article image size[edit]

Is it normal for such large images to be used on an article? In all my years on Wikipedia I've never seen one so huge! I thought I'd increased the scale myself somehow. 65.95.66.228 (talk) 19:50, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No - I've reduced two. Johnbod (talk) 04:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

f Amartin405 (talk) 12:06, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is a mistake or typo regarding the Immaculate Conception[edit]

I don't think that "...a belief arose that Mary was born of Anne by virgin birth, the Immaculate Conception, preserving Mary's body and soul intact and sinless from the first moment of existence" is accurately worded. It seems to be implying that "immaculate conception" is the same thing as "virgin birth." However, if I understand correctly, the first idea refers to being conceived naturally but preserved from original sin, while the second idea refers to being conceived miraculously without a human biological father. The first doctrine refers to Anne's giving birth to Mary, and the second to Mary's giving birth to Jesus. Thanks!

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