Talk:Sabuktigin

Sabuktigin is currently a Royalty, nobility and heraldry good article nominee. Nominated by Amir Ghandi (talk) at 14:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer.

Short description: Founder of the Ghaznavid Empire (c.942–997)

Biography: Royalty and Nobility

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Royalty and Nobility.

Afghanistan

	Afghanistan portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Afghanistan, a project to maintain and expand Afghanistan-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.AfghanistanWikipedia:WikiProject AfghanistanTemplate:WikiProject AfghanistanAfghanistan articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Iran

	Iran portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Iran, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles related to Iran on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please join the project where you can contribute to the discussions and help with our open tasks.IranWikipedia:WikiProject IranTemplate:WikiProject IranIran articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Jayapala was copied or moved into Sabuktigin with this edit on 19:41, April 26, 2024‎. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Removal of links[edit]

Perhaps editor Nasir Ghobar can explain why he removed,History of Pakistan,History of India,History of Iran, History of Afghanistan and History of Central Asia, under the misleading heading of "Clean up".[1] I see no reasoning for the removal of these links. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty general and useless links, unless they fit some particular need within the article. — LlywelynII 19:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So...[edit]

what does the article think the difference between "Ghazna" and "Ghanzi" is? If they both refer to the city, use one form. If they don't, clarify that. — LlywelynII 19:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LlywelynII Replaced all mentions of Ghazna to Ghazni. Noorullah (talk) 19:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sabuktigin/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Amir Ghandi (talk · contribs) 14:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: HistoryofIran (talk · contribs) 15:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And please do say if you disagree with some of the edits I have made in the article. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

Are you sure Sabuktigin used the title of "Amir"? It's currently unsourced, and even his Iranica article doesn't mention it. I find it a bit odd that he would have used the same title as his Samanid suzerains. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added the source for Amir. Amir Ghandi (talk) 11:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just read some of The Ghaznavids: Their Empire in Afghanistan and Eastern Iran, seems like "amir" was a common title even amongst the Samanids and local rulers/governors. The info about Sabuktigin being amir does not appear in the body of the article, which it should, so the citation in the lede also can get removed. This info, written by Bosworth, will fit well in the article [2] HistoryofIran (talk) 01:06, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added the information, any thoughts?

Infobox[edit]

Since Sabuktigins sons are mentioned, so should Hurra-yi Kalji in the Death and succession section, instead of in a note. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Abu al-Muzaffar Nasr's name is spelled in two different ways in the infobox and body of the article, which one is the right one? --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed

Sources[edit]

Looks good. I'm surprised you didn't use The Ghaznavids: Their Empire in Afghanistan and Eastern Iran, 994-1040 by Bosworth, it has a lot of info, and written late in his career when he was practically the face of Medieval Islamic history. I've uploaded it here if you're interested [3] (Ctrl + F "ktigin" if you want every mention of him to appear). --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link. I replaced most of the references to his thesis with the book. Amir Ghandi (talk) Amir Ghandi (talk) 11:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I thought the work was created much later than 1963. Anyways, good to see that preferred over a thesis. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]