Talk:Russian Space Forces

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What are you smoking?[edit]

There are no troops in space! Article should be renamed to Russian Space Force.

Yup, this page should defiantly be called Russian Space Forces, I mean it even says that in the Category box. --Hibernian 16:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How do you know? Do you have access to top secrete military files? Hmm? Thought so.
Da, I have top secret files, comrade. Come come, I give you free cigaaaaarette on first purchase...

Well no doubt that there are space weapons owned by Russia. So these astranauts that man these weapons, (unless they are unmanned) can be thought of as troops. Anyways, space is in fact a strategically useless volume to control unless you can use space as a weapons platform. Space troops, even Russian space troops will be of no use to this end. Establishing space supremacy is done by space satellite weapons.

You insult mother Russia
- isn't there an anti-space war treaty or something...? i dunno.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.205.71.253 (talk) 23:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Moderators plx? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Norwegianzealot (talk • contribs) 14:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

In modern Russia, armed forces are classified in accordance to a) their ability to start, conduct and maintain significant multirole operations within a structure that is per se inter-operable and possesses its own High Command. Such forces are called силы, sily (forces) and currently comprise exclusively the Air Force, the Land (Ground) Forces (strangely enough called войска / voyska, i.e. "troops") and the Navy. b) all forces that are less inter-operable and more specialised and thought to conduct operations with other branches and forces, these are generally called ... войска, i.e. ... troops, plain and simple. The latter include: the KV (Space troops), the VDV (Airborne), the RVSN (Strategic missile, land based). Note that the V in the abbreviations is always voyska. c) voyska is translated troops in English. Period. d) Hence, the correct way of translating Космические войска (Kosmitsheskye voyska) is Space troops. Or Cosmic troops, if one really wants to be really pedantic about it.

Well, no, actually, войска is as much troops as "forces". Say, RVSN (РВСН, ракетные войска стратегического назначения, strategic missile forces) can in no way be translated using the word "troops". Danvolodar (talk) 22:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed Page[edit]

I corrected the name of the page. --Tricky_Wiki44 2:30 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The only website (the only reference, for that matter) cited in the article appears to be that of the Russian Federation Ministry of Defence. That page clearly calls it the "Space Force" (singular). What source uses the plural? (Remember, to translate a name oneself might be considered original research! ;-) (Sdsds - Talk) 06:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Voronezh radar[edit]

Russia does not need radar in Abkhazia - source MOSCOW. March 29 (Interfax-AVN) - The offer by Abkhaz President Sergei Bagapsh to deploy a Russian radar in Sukhumi in response to possible U.S. mobile missile defense radar deployment in Georgia is unlikely to be put in action, thinks a military diplomat in Moscow.

"Abkhaz leadership made a politically valuable proposal to demonstrate friendliness to Russia. However, from the military prospective, it would be unwise to accept it. The matter is that in the second half of 2007 the meter-wave-band Voronezh radar will be put on duty in the vicinity of Armavir in the Krasnodar territory, which will monitor all missile launches in the southern theater of operation," the diplomat told Interfax-AVN on Thursday.

U.S. intention to deploy elements of its missile defense system in the Caucasus was voiced by Lieutenant General Henry Obering, Director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, in Brussels on March 1. He said that three of the ten ground elements of the missile defense system will be deployed in Europe by 2011, including a radar in the Caucasus.

Georgian leaders for their part said they will consider opportunities to deploy the radar, if the U.S. administration turns to them with such a proposal.

Abkhaz President Sergei Bagapsh suggested on Wednesday that Russia could place its tracking radar in Sukhumi in response.

The construction of the Voronezh radar in the vicinity of Armavir started in mid-2006. The radar has a modular design and is said to be the new-generation Russian radar. It is intended to provide early warning of ballistic missile launches, and generate data about space objects for use in the work of the space monitoring system.

The advantage of the new radar over the predecessors is the low consumed power, which is merely 0.7 MW (by way of comparison, Dnepr and Daryal radars had 2.0 and 50 MW respectively). The Voronezh radar is made of 23 elements, while the Dnepr and Daryal consist of 180 and 4,070 parts respectively.

The tests of the radar started near Armavir in mid-December 2006.

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Okno[edit]

For the Okno facility, see de:Okno. Buckshot06(prof) 18:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

This article is confused as it describes facilities without saying when they were in operation - and it all needs putting the past tense as it's been replaced by the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces. Secretlondon (talk) 23:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganization at top level?[edit]

Apparently this space force (or rather: near-earth space protection and radar agencies) is being put under the umbrella of a new top branch: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Guarding_Space_Russia_Creates_a_New_Branch_of_the_Armed_Forces_999.html

"Russia has created a new branch of its armed forces by merging the nation's air force, air defense, anti-missile and space forces into the Aerospace Forces; their first combat duty started on August 1. Russia has added a new branch to its armed forces - the Aerospace Force.

The newly created branch has merged the country's air force, air defense, anti-missile and space forces under one command, according to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

"The creation of the Aerospace Forces by merging the air force and aerospace defense force is the optimal way of improving the system of the nation's aerospace defense," Shoigu said at a teleconference on Monday." 83.254.154.164 (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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