Talk:Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations

Perhaps examples of this "anger rather than informed critisism" could be cited? I was under the impression that this book had been largely discredited.- adembroski Jan 07 2006

Discredited? It's not a scholarly work, it's political satire. It's not exactly peer-reviewed. What's there to discredit? Either it makes you laugh or it doesn't. -Kasreyn 21:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If this book was discredited-which it wasn't because no one really takes it seriously except Rush's extreme supporters and those who extremely hate him-no one's noticed, which gives credibility to the statement of anger rather than informed criticism. J. M. 22:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"No one really takes it seriously except Rush's extreme supporter's"? As a liberal and a fan of Franken, I beg to differ. His book is a work of satire, and while some of it is just gentle ribbing (as in the section "Republicans Who Have Showered With Blacks"), it also features some serious argument, even if it's delivered in a comedic style. Comedy can be rich with insight, which is why political cartoons and strips like Doonesbury often show up on the op-ed pages of newspapers, amid serious discussions. As such, it is perfectly valid to criticize Franken's arguments if you disagree with them--though of course to say his book has been "discredited" depends on your point of view. I've encountered Republicans who like the book (especially non-Limbaugh fans), but that doesn't imply it is purely "entertainment" with nothing of substance to say. I would say the same thing about Rush Limbaugh himself: whatever you may think about the validity of his message or tactics, his radio show at least purports to be a mixture of entertainment and serious commentary. That's why there can be debunking books like The Way Things Aren't. If some conservatives want to do a similar debunking of Franken's works, that's fine with me, but that doesn't mean I agree with their conclusions.

That Franken, he's a funny guy. I got to read Lies and see how he "bitch-slaps" Bernie Goldberg. Aaрон Кинни (t) 22:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that, I read it a few nights ago. I have to admit, he's right on almost everything! I didn't know Goldberg was such an incoherent loon, and to think the last book I read before this was 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America. Aaрон Кинни (t) 05:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job talking to yourself.

Al Franken Saved Limbaugh's Life with this book!!![edit]

Franke's guest dittohead whom he interviews occasionally on his Air America radio show, has credited Franken with saving Limbaugh's life, as Limbaugh was morbidly obese at the time this book was published but underwent a weight loss program soon after, though his weight has since rebounded.

if true, that nearly makes me cry. Al has written very compassionately (albeit satirically) about 12 step programs, and Overeaters Anon, and problems with weight. While i despise Rush's politics, i do care about him as a person (when i think about him, which isnt often), and i would bet that Al does too. so if this helped him, wonderful. really. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 20:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not part of the title?[edit]

There's an argument that it's better to omit the "and other observations" from the name of this article. I don't much care about that. However, it is unquestionably a part of the title. Here's a page from Franken's website that references the book: [1]. Croctotheface (talk) 12:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrations[edit]

Who's responsible for the illustrations throughout the book? Most notably in the "Operation Chickenhawk" section? I can't find any mention of it. Al Franken himself? 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 21:22, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]