Talk:Rubber hose animation

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Definition

This article does not actually explain what Rubber Hose animation is, per se. It explains the rise and fall in use, and the time period in which it is used and why, but no real description of the animation style itself. The references made to examples of the style are useful (Felix the cat, Max Avery, cartoons) however a reader without knowledge of those characters would not take away any knowledge of the style.

• Perhaps an image or two may benefit the article? -Vulpicula (talk) 06:23, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vulpicula I fixed it. Read the intro

) . Oversized Lego spoon 64 (talk) 21:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Backing up

I second that notion that it does not actually explain WHAT (the fuck?) "rubber hose" animation is. At my best guess, I thought they were referring to the trend of an industry to react to the actions of a small few, analogous the motion of one end of an actual hose whose energy travels down the rest of its' length.99.225.52.60 (talk) 19:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

My guess is that it's both that and the fact that the limbs and necks of rubber-hose characters look and move like rubber hoses - long, floppy, boneless - thus the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.195.152 (talk) 05:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Unsupported claim of primary influence?

"The rubber hose animation gradually faded away when further sophistication of the cartoons was introduced, especially by Walt Disney..." (Emphasis mine.) I would like to see some support for the claim made in this paragraph (at least by implication, since no other animator is mentioned) that Disney was the prime mover in this trend. Disney had a serious and influential rival and competitor in Fleischer Studios. Max Fleischer demonstrated his commitment to sophisticated and realistic animation early on ("beginning in 1915") by inventing and patenting the Rotoscope, which made practical the basing of animation on live action models, an approach which is still used today in the conceptually equivalent technique of digital motion capture. The article on rotoscoping suggests that Disney did not use the technique in a publicly released film until 1937 (because he used it regularly thereafter). The Fleischers developed and introduced other sophisticated reality-enhancing techniques as well, such as the construction of miniature sets placed on rotating platforms to serve as backgrounds to shoot animation cels against.

I do not know who did what first, nor whether Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck had (and have) better public name recognition than Betty Boop and Popeye. Fleischer Studios may no longer exist, but their cartoons are still run in syndication to appreciative audiences. I would like to see some support for the claim that it was "especially Walt Disney," more than any other, who drove the transition to more sophisticated and realistic animation. --96.251.9.196 (talk) 20:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

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