Talk:Royal Crescent

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Is it really true to say "The Royal Crescent is a popular location for the launch of hot air balloons, which takes place in the summer, typically early morning or late evening"? Balloon launches happen frequently from Victoria park, and sometimes from the area close to the Crescent. Bathterror 16:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and have made a change.--MichaelMaggs 18:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many years ago I was told that the Crescent, Circus and Brock Street form a Druid shape and that this is because Wood was a Druid. Does anyone know anything about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.87.84.40 (talk) 18:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ha-ha[edit]

Would it be correct to describe, in the article, the border of the lawn as a Ha-ha? I just was directed to this term elsewhere, regarding a U.S. site. The term is not known generally in the U.S. I recall admiring how the view at the Royal Crescent from above was unobstructed, but don't recall exactly how the the border is made, whether by a sunken fence or what. If this is one, perhaps a pic could be added to the Ha-ha article gallery. doncram (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just spotted a picture of the Ha Ha at Geograph which is CC licenced so could be used.— Rod ^talk 19:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting trivia about the crescent[edit]

If there are fireworks or loud explosions (say on November 6) closer to the center of bath, the sound echo's around the crescent like a zipper. Quite startling the first time you hear it. dm (talk) 03:26, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver![edit]

i don't believe the royal crescent refered to in the movie oliver! is this one. the design is completely different and the one in oliver! is white. video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11x9V1OyKpg i believe the crescent referred to here is the royal york crescent in bristol, same color and identical design, with a little creative editing to place a flat park across the road in the movie instead of the real life downhill seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ_2n6Q0Tmw note the windows and doors and balcony is all spaced and shaped the same way, down to the paving stones, except for a subsequently added cover over the balcony. more likely the royal crescent in cheltenham which has the same design and also the flat gated park across the street. http://www.coupepc.co.uk/management/royal-crescent-cheltenham/ that outdoor scene is no movie set 71.98.201.101 (talk) 06:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article actually said that it wasn't filmed at the Royal Crescent (Bath) so I've removed the mention. These trivia sections are always problematic. I have other citation needed tags and if no references can be found to support the claims I think they could be removed as well.— Rod ^talk 19:30, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:35, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look and jot notes below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:35, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The section read awkwardly so I planned on rejigging it, but realised that just rejigging the gaps makes it flow better, so the first para is context and location, second para is construction, and third is the ditch etc. Take a look and see if you're happy with that.

Yep I agree that works.— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Any info on the rus in urbe idea would be good to add.

I've added a wiktionary link - seems just mean to bring the countryside into the urban area. I'm not sure what else to add.— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I sorta meant if there was any theory or idea behind it relating to the design, but never mind if there wasn't Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

although he was rarely resident as he was... - why not just "although he rarely resided/lived there as he was.... "

Changed.— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

many are privately owned but a substantial minority are owned by a housing association - I am not sure what a "housing association" means as I am not familiar with the specific meaning of this term in the UK...

:::Wikilinked to Housing association. Do I need more - perhaps Public housing in the United Kingdom?— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Hmm, I think it is pretty interesting how some of the most prestigious address became public housing. Any info on this would be fascinating. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)~~[reply]

I've added a short paragraph - can't find much else, but it appears several houses bought by council post WWII to rent out because of housing shortage. Several subsequently sold off but one still in council ownership.— Rod ^talk 07:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That helps a lot. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The two sentences in the second para of current use are not linked to each other (the first should be in the first para by context) - both could help with a little expansion of info and why does the second have 3 refs for it?

:::I've changed the paragraph break and added more about the bus ban. The second sentence was very controversial & I was previously challenged to provide a source.— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the Film and television, the Time Team material is at odds with the rest of the material as it is fact rather than fiction and would go better somewhere else. My thinking is it would go better at the end of para 3 of the Design and construction section.

Moved.— Rod ^talk 19:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A nice read overall. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 October 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved – falls short of the bar required by WP:THE. No such user (talk) 16:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Crescent → The Royal Crescent – That is what the people of Bath and this Wikipedia article refer to it as.BrightOrion | talk 19:18, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

oppose per WP:THE —blindlynx (talk) 17:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding WP:THE, it states:

These conditions [of using "The"] are sometimes met if the Wikipedia article name is: another official or commonly used proper name (e.g., The Hague, The Crown).

I would argue The Royal Crescent is similar to The Hague, the "The" is part of a commonly used proper name.BrightOrion | talk 19:18, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A survey of the sources used in the article does not back up the definitive article being part of a proper name as it isn't used in all sources and when it is used it is often lower case where as the rest of the name is capitalized—blindlynx (talk) 20:49, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there is an inconsistency in the style. This does not by itself mean, though, that The Royal Crescent is therefore incorrect. It is sometimes spelled that way, just as it is sometimes spelled "Royal Crescent", the current name of the article. I'm arguing that the correct name is "The Royal Crescent" and perhaps the strongest evidence I can find is on the Visit Bath website. https://visitbath.co.uk/listings/single/the-royal-crescent/ BrightOrion | talk 00:42, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

in that article 'the' is only capitalized used talking about the hotel not the crescent as a whole meaning it is not part of the name of the structure as a whole—blindlynx (talk) 03:52, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article says "Today, The Royal Crescent is home to the five-star hotel The Royal Crescent Hotel & Spa...". The page title is also "The Royal Crescent". However, admittedly, in one part it also says "Many notable people have either lived or stayed in the Royal Crescent since...". The map on the right-hand side of that webpage also just says "Royal Crescent" for the buildings. Here's another page about it which mixes styles as well.https://visitbath.co.uk/blog/five-fascinating-facts-about-the-royal-crescent/

Encyclopedia Britannica just calls it "Royal Crescent" https://www.britannica.com/place/Royal-Crescent So does this website https://bath.co.uk/featured/royal-crescent I think I'll have to concede as there is not enough good evidence for The Royal Crescent. BrightOrion | talk 07:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how I feel about this...we have The Gambia but The Netherlands Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:24, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Obviously, per WP:THE. Its name doesn't have an article, as can be seen here and here and here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this discussion warrants an "obviously" mate, haha. There's quite a lot of variation in how it is spelled. Thanks for the links though.BrightOrion | talk 14:51, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I think it does! -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:51, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nice attitude you have there.BrightOrion | talk 16:20, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose there is not sufficient enough evidence to support the inclusion of the article as required by WP:THE. While "Royal Crescent Hotel" might use "The" in marketing, the official registered name is "TOPLAND (ROYAL CRESCENT HOTEL) LIMITED" as well as their webpage copyright uses simply "Royal Crescent Hotel". Furthermore, The Bath Preservation Trust - which is the other external links in the article, simply uses "Royal Crescent" in it's articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiggerjay (talk • contribs)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Tv show?[edit]

There is a TV show on the BBC, a murder mystery with a young black woman as a DCI, that has a hot air balloon crash that lands at the Royal Crescent. A man is missing from the balloon (murdered) when they crash land. I can’t recall the show’s name, but someone who knows the BBC better, I’m sure knows it. The show is not listed in the Movie and TV section. 2601:410:8082:14A0:8834:B3D8:D8F4:3FF1 (talk) 21:12, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]