Talk:Rolling hitch

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Terminology for this knot throughout English speaking world?[edit]

In recent edits to this page I added the Naming Issues section. I decided stepping back and using a common reference like Ashley was the best way to avoid ambiguity, but I believe it is definitely useful to have as much information as possible about what names are used to refer to these knots in various locales. I've seen some vague indications (mostly on websites, rather than in knot books) that maybe Magnus/Magner's hitch may still be in semi-common usage outside the US to refer to the Rolling hitch. Could folks from UK/CA/AU/NZ/etc chime in with the current usage and/or add pertinent info to the naming section. If "Magnus hitch" to refer to the "Rolling hitch" has fallen out of common usage globally, I'm thinking that the Magnus Hitch (#1736) should have its own page rather than redirecting here as it currently does. Thoughts? --Dfred 03:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reconsidered my initial idea about the Magnus hitch having its own page... And without any other comment, I have effectively consolidated all hitches commonly known as Rolling Hitch or Magnus Hitch on this single page with the intent to have all redirects point here. I'm doing the same on Taut-line hitch for the adjustable loop forms of these hitches. My rationale for this plan is to avoid splitting up the information and tying instructions for these closely related (and conflictingly named) hitches onto seperate pages since that would necessitate much duplication of explanation about the history and naming of these knots and would make comparison of the variations more difficult. This whole exercise, aspects of which are applicable to many other knots, has left me with some ideas for guidelines for the disambiguation/consolidation of knotting pages which I plan to summarize at Wikipedia:WikiProject Knots soon. --Dfred 03:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I think you're right to combine the two kidns of rolling hitch and the Magner's Hitch on this single page. And to answer your original question, I sail in the UK and have never heard the term "Magner's Hitch" outside of WIkipedia. PeteVerdon 02:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. "Magner's" is apparently an archaic (or maybe corrupted) form of "Magnus" and is mentioned in ABOK. My original worry was that #1734 and #1735 might still be referred to by the original name in some parts of the world, but covering it all in the same article lessens the problem. --Dfred 14:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW I'm another one who sails in the UK and I'd never heard of a Magner/Magnus hitch. Can we drop the other page? Number774 (talk) 12:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

#1734 to #1735 conversion[edit]

Should it be made clear that #1734 and #1735 can be converted from one to the other simply by redressing? (i.e. without removing any turns, and simply pushing one of the initial turns over the other) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.210.106 (talk) 05:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted to address this issue in current rev... --Dfred (talk) 03:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lead photo is of Awning Hitch, no?[edit]

The lead photo appears to be of an awning hitch (referred to as #1798 at [1]) not one of the three rolling hitches presented in this article. In particular, the photo omits the last half hitch of #1735. Can anyone comment on this? Seems like one of the other photos presently in the article would make a better lead photo. Noca2plus (talk) 05:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is actually a rolling hitch: look carefully in the full-size photo at the spot where the standing part enters the knot. Though subtle, it does appear to go behind the other wraps even though the knot appears to have rolled over on itself somewhat. But I think you're absolutely right that this image is less than ideal for the lead image for this page. I substituted a clearer one that has since appeared in the commons. --Dfred (talk) 06:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other rolling hitch[edit]

Another rolling hitch is a variation of the clove hitch; see Roper's knot guide: http://www.realknots.com/knots/hitches.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.66.49.3 (talk) 09:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]