Talk:Rogue River (Oregon)

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Source?[edit]

This article says that Rogue River is fed by Crater Lake, but the Crater Lake article says that the lake itself has no natural outlet and only loses water by evaporation. Can anybody clear up this inconsistency? Perhaps the river rises in a section of Crater Lake National Park other than the lake itself. Bigturtle 02:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that spotted that.
I just checked my geologic references and only found references to the only outlet (of Crater Lake) being seepage and evaporation. However, I found the following quote "the origin of the Rogue River at Boundary Springs inside Crater Lake National." At the following Forest Service web-site.
It could be that Boundary Springs source may be seepage from Crater Lake (or maybe not). TTFN Ralph --N7bsn 02:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
yeah, there is not an outlet from Crater Lake. It is quite well contained by GIANT CLIFFS all around.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.55.200.20 (talk • contribs) 12:48, November 29, 2006
The source of the confusion is that the quote is incomplete. It should read; "the origin of the Rogue River at Boundary Springs inside Crater Lake National Park." The park covers a much larger area than the lake itself.
http://www.nps.gov/archive/crla/crlamap.htm
The water from the spring could come from Crater Lake seepage as well as from runoff from the surrounding hills. <BTW I'm a geologist who grew up in Western Oregon, so I'm somewhat familiar with the area.>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.94.44.50 (talk • contribs) 15:01, November 29, 2006
Based on multiple people (with good backgrounds) coming to the same conclusion I am going to change the source to the above "Boundry Springs, within CLNP" TTFN--N7bsn 18:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reference error[edit]

For some reason, reference number 53 (Gold beach jet) has no content. Just a heads up. LITTLEMOUNTAIN5 00:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it's been fixed. (By the way, great job on this article, Finetooth!) LITTLEMOUNTAIN5 00:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photos[edit]

Thank you, Little Mountain 5. I think you caught me in the middle of my latest addition before I noticed that red citation. If you live near the Rogue and like to take photos, the article could really use a good one of a mail boat, one of the confluence of the Illinois and Rogue rivers, maybe one of the demolition of one of the dams, and lots of other things. I can imagine photo ops all over the place, but this is such a big river, parts of which are hard to get to, that the photo hunt is going to take a while. A couple of the Rogue River images I've found on the Commons are superior, but most of the others are at best so-so. I'm thinking of them as placeholders until something better comes along. Finetooth (talk) 02:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I took some pictures from near Indian Mary Park:
I also took this panorama (I thought I got more of the banks, but apparently I didn't):
They're not amazing, but one of them might fit somewhere in the article. There's a few rafters in the first picture, but I didn't see any mail boats. The confluence with the Illinois is fairly remote, I might be able to get there sometime. I actually drove by Savage Rapids Dam yesterday, but everything was fenced off and there was no where to stop to get a picture along the road. I'll hopefully be able to go by there again soon. Thanks, LittleMountain5 23:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added one of your Indian Mary images and the Table Rock panorama to this article and the Indian Mary panorama and a Table Rock photo to the separate Course of the Rogue River (Oregon). Both pages are much improved visually, and if you happen to get others like the Savage Rapids shot, I'm sure they will work too. Finetooth (talk) 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New watershed map[edit]

Rogue River watershed

I just swapped the old watershed map for this new one. I tried to make it as close as possible to Shannon1's map, while fixing a few things. First, it's in PNG format which is generally better for maps than JPEG (PNG is lossless while JPEG is lossy). I also fixed errors in the watershed boundaries, several stream courses, and the Maidu Lake label (it's really Diamond Lake). Anyway, if anyone thinks the old map is better, feel free to change it back; it's fine with me. Sincerely, LittleMountain5 01:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

population density[edit]

So I took a look at the Watershed section and something seemed to not add up. The article states that "The watershed's overall population density is 4.8 people per square mile" and when you multiply this by the watershed size (5156) you get a total population of 24,750. However, both Medford (74,907) and Grants Pass (34,533) alone have greater populations. So this might have to be rechecked. Is the population density meant to read 48 people per square mile? That seems to make some more sense. Shannon 02:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. Thank you. The 4.8 per square mile was way off. Using Benke and Cushing's density expressed in square kilometers and converting that to people per square mile yields a density of about 32 per square mile. That equates to a total population of about 165,500, which is in the ballpark. Finetooth (talk) 03:44, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

War[edit]

There were several beautifully written paragraphs on the Rogue River Wars, which I moved to the already existing article with that name. I think that if there is a separate article, then in this artcle just a Wikilink is needed, with a very short summary sentence. The text I moved was beautifully written, and strengthens the War article, while moving it does not weaken this one much. I believe I left enough text here to give the idea. Nick Beeson (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, since this article is featured and was vetted by many editors, it should not be weakened at all. With that in mind, I'm restoring the original paragraphs. That does not preclude you from using some version of the same material in the other article if it seems to fit. Finetooth (talk) 22:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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