Talk:Robert S. Munger

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	This article was accepted from this draft on 13 November 2018 by reviewer Frayae (talk · contribs).

Page Title[edit]

When I initially made this page, I named it "Robert Munger" because a lot of Wikipedia is organized as biographies. Also, it would match up with an existing dead link "Robert Munger" on an existing page. However, should the title be "System Gin" since the main signficance is the invention? Or should it be "Robert and Mary Munger"? Sally Mann, in Hold Still, Sally Mann, argues Robert and Mary worked as a team to perfect the invention. Condensinguponitself (talk) 20:08, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for starting the article. Given Robert Munger's recent induction into the Alabama Men's Hall of Fame, I was considering proposing an entry for Munger as well, and came across this draft while I was looking. I think it makes the most sense to have an article about the individual, as he is also notable for real estate development real estate development (Arlington Antebellum Home & Gardens and Munger Place Historic District, Dallas), entrepreneurship (Munger Improved Cotton Manufacturing and Northington-Munger-Pratt), and philanthropy (about $200 million worth in today's dollars). While Mary's contributions were very large, I don't know if we reach the threshold for going beyond the "one biography for one person" convention. --Eisbetterthanpi (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Certainly Robert Munger had his initial invention, but what I see propelling him beyond that is a keen ability to form alliances with other inventors, entrepreneurs, and real estate developers. But that is just my opinion. We do have the chapter in Sally Mann's book, which focuses on the immediate family. Will have to wait for someone to write a broader biography that includes the extended family and business partners. Condensinguponitself (talk) 01:12, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Partners and Associates[edit]

Considering that Robert S. Munger formed several important alliances, would it be helpful to add a section focusing on those partners or associates? These generally would be persons who would not have their own Wikipedia pages, but important understanding Robert S. Munger's work. Condensinguponitself (talk) 00:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What were you thinking of? Munger's two companies were merged into Daniel Pratt (industrialist)'s company to form Continental Gin Company. I have a book about them and a second one that mentions them a lot (by their former CEO, who wrote a book about ginning technology and its development).Eisbetterthanpi (talk) 17:28, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more of the period before Continental Gin, but you are correct, Munger formed important alliances there also. Maybe we need a section devoted entirely to Continental Gin? Anyhow, I was thinking of a bullet list by name, with a brief description of each associate's contribution. Condensinguponitself (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Munger Place[edit]

I added some information about deed restrictions to the Real Estate section. Also deleted some information about that from the introduction, thinking it too much detail for the introduction.

With respect to real estate, his use of deed restrictions seems to be Robert S. Munger's main innovation. Some sources say Munger Place was the first such development in Texas, but the National Register and city nominations do not confirm. Sources disagree on whether the deed restrictions were explicitly racially exclusionary, with the city report for Munger Place saying they did restrict to whites only, whereas the city report for Swiss Avenue district, speaking for the entirety of Munger Place says, "Although conceived by Munger as an exclusive development for the affluent, there was never evidence of restrictions based on religious or racial grounds." https://dallascityhall.com/departments/sustainabledevelopment/historicpreservation/HP%20Documents/Resources%20Page/Munger%20Place%20Designation%20Report.pdf https://dallascityhall.com/departments/sustainabledevelopment/historicpreservation/HP%20Documents/Districts%20Page/Swiss%20Avenue%20Designation%20Report.pdf

I deleted the part about Prairie Style architecture. Robert S. Munger was not responsible for the architecture. The deed restrictions were extensive, but they did not dictate any particular style. Condensinguponitself (talk) 14:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]