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Legends

"A second legend is that it is possible to walk from MSU to UE on land solely owned by Roanoke." Does anyone have any idea what this is supposed to mean? I am very familiar with Roanoke and I have no idea what those might stand for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.142.49 (talk) 02:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

High Handed Administrative Methods

This university is widely known in the local community as well as from other students who attend the college for its controversial, high handed and what many consider reactionary methods of administering the college itself. I've been informed by someone who attended the university of these methods, and I was shocked to hear these horror stories confirmed by several other sources. I plan on doing more research on this subject, and desire to see if these horror stories from local residents in their dealings of with the college as well as some of the students who have reported to me thus far in my appeal on the internet to have these reports substantiated. Has anyone been informed of similar methods? If so, the controversy may be worth covering on the articles page. I intend to get to the bottom of this issue. Has anyone else heard of this issue ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oranin22 (talk • contribs) 02:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Park Hee Byung

Roanoke was one of the first colleges in the United States to welcome Korean students. The first Korean to graduate from an American college or university, Surh Beung Kiu, graduated from Roanoke in the class of 1898. Kim Kyu-shik, an early Korean independence leader who campaigned against the Japanese annexation of Korea, also graduated from Roanoke.

Park Hee Byung, another early Korean independence leader who lived the last years of his life in Colorado, graduated from Roanoke as well. Park's wikipedia page has appropriate references justifying this information, thus, it seems unnecessary to have the same reference(s) in the Roanoke College article (no other listed alumni have external cites; those with wikipedia pages such as Park have references on those pages). Park should be listed the same as all alumni (and again his page has appropriate references).

Hopefully this addresses the concerns of the person who initially added Park to the Roanoke College website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korea2006 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

First, sign your comments with four tildes. Second, all facts in every article should have citations, regardless of whether those facts appear in other Wikipedia articles (and in many cases, those other articles too are unreferenced or poorly referenced). This serves to assure the reader that someone is actually doing fact checking; also in lists like this, it helps to demonstrate the notability of the person added to the list. The fact that the authors of this article have not bothered to add any citations does not mean you delete when one gets added because its not "the same as all alumni"; it means you should be looking for external cites for those alumni also, along with every other fact in the article. Really, verifiability is absolutely basic policy around here. cab (talk) 02:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
There's a difference between verifiability and needlessly duplicating citations. If one Wikipedia article is already linking to another, it shouldn't need to duplicate the linked article's citations simply to mention a fact from that article in passing. If that were necessary, inter-linking Wikipedia articles would quickly devolve into nothing more than a mess of duplicated citations ;) Ubernostrum 17:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Roanoke and the Railway

The Norfolk and Western Railway, now Norfolk Southern Corporation, has provided career opportunities for many Roanoke alumni; the NWR was headquartered in Roanoke, Virginia until 1982 and is a major employer in western Virginia. Roanoke graduates who have advanced to leadership positions include Stuart T. Saunders and John P. Fishwick, former presidents of the NWR; John R. Turbyfill, retired vice-chairman, NSC; and John S. Shannon, retired executive vice president, NSC.

Roanoke has strong historic ties to the railway due in part to the alumni connections. The NWR named a Pullman car "Roanoke College" in honor of the college and Fishwick's Salem, Virginia residence is now the college President's House. Saunders and Turbyfill served as chairman of Roanoke's board of trustees. In 2007, David R. Goode, retired chairman, NSC, endowed Roanoke's Center for Learning and Teaching in honor of his father, sister, and brother-in-law, all Roanoke graduates.

CO leak death

On July 14, 2006, a carbon monoxide leak in a Roanoke residence hall contributed to the death of a 91-year old retired pastor who was attending a three-day Lutheran conference. More than 100 conference attendees were affected with a small number admitted to a local hospital. A number of Upward Bound students being housed on campus were also affected. No Roanoke students were involved. The leak was caused by a malfunction in the residence hall's gas-powered hot water system, which had passed a state inspection in October 2005 and was certified through October 2007. The residence hall, known as Sections, is a row of three adjoined buildings, Wells Hall, built in 1910; Yonce Hall, built in 1913; and Fox Hall, built in 1956; the combined halls were last renovated in 1986. The incident has prompted discussion about possible state legislation to require carbon monoxide detectors in residential buildings (Virginia law currently does not require such detectors). The college has indicated that, regardless of future legislation, it will install carbon monoxide detectors in all campus buildings.

Reference tags

Follow-up to the comment below and to the tags recently added. Please be specific about what information is not neutral and what needs to be cited. The items previously marked as in need of citation have been cited. What else should be done? 10 August 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.79.66 (talk) 19:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


Please do not remove the improvement tags from this article without actually improving it. It reads like a brochure, not an encyclopedia article, and is in desperate need of factual citation per WP:CITATION and WP:NOTABILITY. Further removal of the tags without discussion or improving the faults they point out will be considered vandalism. Furthermore, failure to address the problems will lead to portions of the article having to be deleted. Mfield (talk) 04:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Surely there are some facts and citations that can be drawn and referenced from the books listed in the 'in the press section' for a start. Mfield (talk) 04:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the neutrality tag now the language has been toned town and some referencing has been added. There's still room for improvement with regard to the citation of facts though. There must be citations for the sporting wins and there must be more press - good and bad that could be incorporated. A school of this age must have had more interesting and/or controversial press over the course of its history. Mfield (talk) 20:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald (wife of F. Scott Fitzgerald) father, Anthony Dickinson Sayre, was valedictorian of the class of 1878 at Roanoke College. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.221.119.241 (talk) 03:46, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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New images for Roanoke College

Hi all — Roanoke College has a brand-new logo as well as photos of its new college president. We’d love to work with you to get that new imagery added to this article.

The images have been uploaded to Wikipedia Commons with the titles “Roanoke College Branding” and “Roanoke College President Frank Shushok Jr.” The additions could be supported by these links from the college and the news media:

RC NEWS: Roanoke College introduces new brand and logo WFXR-TV: Roanoke College hosting celebration events for brand & new logo launch RC NEWS: Frank Shushok column: College advice from a parent still learning as a president Richmond Times-Dispatch: Frank Shushok column: College advice from a parent still learning as a president

We’re making the request for these updates here in keeping with Wikipedia’s conflict of interest policy for entries pertaining to Roanoke College. Thanks so much for your help. If we can provide any other info, please just let us know. Roanoke College Communications (talk) 19:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. voorts (talk/contributions) 07:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your question! Our request had two parts:
1). Change the college logo shown on the page from the old imagery to the new imagery. The old imagery currently appears at the bottom of the gray box on the righthand side of the page immediately under the line labeled "Website." The new imagery can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College Branding.”
2). Change the image of our college president from a photo of our past president to a photo of our current president. The photo of our past president currently appears on the page in the image labeled: "11th President of Roanoke College, Michael Maxey." The photo of our current president can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College President Frank Shushok Jr.” Roanoke College Communications (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

New images for Roanoke College (Pt2)

I’d like to propose two updates to this article:

1). Change the Roanoke College logo shown on the page from the old logo to the new logo. The old image currently appears at the bottom of the gray box on the righthand side of the page immediately under the line labeled "Website." The new image can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College Branding.”

This change is supported by these links from the college and the news media: RC NEWS: Roanoke College introduces new brand and logo; WFXR-TV: Roanoke College hosting celebration events for brand & new logo launch

2). Change the image of the Roanoke College president from a photo of the past president to a photo of the current president. The photo of the past president currently appears on the page in the image labeled: "11th President of Roanoke College, Michael Maxey." The photo of the current president can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College President Frank Shushok Jr.”

This change is supported by these links from the college and the news media: RC NEWS: Frank Shushok column: College advice from a parent still learning as a president; Richmond Times-Dispatch: Frank Shushok column: College advice from a parent still learning as a president

I’m making this request here in keeping with Wikipedia’s conflict of interest policy as I work for the college. I recently updated my username on the advice of a platform editor. Similarly, I have reformatted and resubmitted this request on the advice of another platform editor. GoNoke (talk) 18:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please upload the photos with the correct licensing and then change the photos. Lightoil (talk) 04:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! Those changes have been made. GoNoke (talk) 18:31, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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