Talk:River Teifi

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Query[edit]

I have copied the following IP query from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rivers#Teifi_River_Wales. Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You indicate the river as 75 miles long but omit the river from the list of longest rivers in the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.6.216 (talk) 20:19, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How about this for a reference from the relevant UK government agency - CCW, which gives the river length as 122 Km ?  Velella  Velella Talk   18:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me, and , and you've updated the Longest rivers of the United Kingdom as well, thanks for the speedy response Velella. I've noticed the Teifi is lacking a Geobox, so I will create one and add the details etc. Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Added the Geobox and even found a map, let me know if you need me to 'break-out' the map as it has made the box quite long. Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:11, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That looks fine. Thanks. It is a pity that we haven't any images from some of the more iconic locations on the river; Tregaron Bog, Henllan rapids, Cenarth falls, Cilgerran gorge etc. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk   19:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Former anglicism[edit]

According to a comment in Talk:River Dyfi by User:Gareth the River Teifi has historically been anglicised as 'Tivy'. However, there is currently no mention of this in the article. This led me to search for it on Google and I found it used in this photo from c.1955[1] and in this article on Wiktionary. I have created a redirect in case anyone searches for the Teifi by the name 'River Tivy' which is the usual procedure for former anglicisms on Wikipedia e.g. 'Portmadoc' redirects to Porthmadog. As for the question of how or where this could be best mentioned in this article the River Conwy has 'River Conway' mentioned in its introduction but this could be mentioned in the History section given it is a historical name. Tk420 (talk) 20:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well done for the effort, Tk420
Footnote: I don't agree with User:Gareth who has been blocked indefinitely to prevent abuse. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
On Google most of the search results I get for 'River Tivy' are for the Teifi though I have only checked after I created the redirect on Wikipedia. The Tivy article on Wiktionary was created in 2017 by User:Pingku. I did also find the 'River Tivy' in a poem by Michael Drayton (1563-1631)[2] but Wikipedia did not let me use a link to a more presentable site in my last comment. I know for a thing the English-language did not have a standardised spelling system in the Tudor and Stuart eras and translation errors were common especially before modern press printing so the anglicised 'Tivy' could have come about this way. Where the official anglicisms were dropped this mainly happened in the late 20th century though I am not sure of the exact date or if the name of a river has changed instantly. Tk420 (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Felindre, River Tivy (Avon Teifi) c.1955". Francis Frith. Retrieved 10 August 2019.
  2. ^ "River Tivy". Bartleby.com. Retrieved 11 August 2019.

Subject to flooding?[edit]

The river is mentioned as being subject to flooding. Pretty much all rivers will display that characteristic - is that of note then? And 'the last took place in 2015' - writing this now in 2020 I'd imagine some took place earlier this year too. Notable floods may be worth recording, not least if they resulted in long-term changes/consequences. Might it be better to deal with flooding in a different way? cheers Geopersona (talk) 07:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your observation. In my opinion, the whole paragraph beginning, The river is susceptible to flooding and there were some heavy floods in 2007 and 2008 ... should be removed. Only events that are either unique or of lasting importance need to included. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Longest river wholly in Wales - or not?[edit]

The length of the Usk is given in its article as 78 miles / 125km which exceeds the figures presented here, thereby suggesting the Usk is the longest river wholly in Wales. The figure is sourced to Natural Resources Wales who are responsible for its management and so may be expected to know what they are talking about. That said, distances provided for rivers are notoriously variable - not just these two. cheers Geopersona (talk) 07:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Geopersona, the three miles discrepancy is easily forgiven. Can't be easy measuring a river in Wales. Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:56, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've measured the Teifi, Tywi and Usk myself with the last of them coming out at 133km! I'm fairly confident about these figures having used the 'wheresthepath website to do so in excruciating detail. This is of course original research on my part so cannot be included in any of the articles but it does give me a better feel for the extent of the measurement problem. We come back to the old issues of different parties having adopted different means of measuring them (string, physical map measurers, digital means etc), at different times (meander loops being cut off, channels artificially altered etc) and with different definitions of their mouths (often the authority boundary which may have changed). If authorities can't even agree which is the world's longest river then what hope for some lesser known ones in a quiet corner of NW Europe? cheers Geopersona (talk) 13:20, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is impressive. I hope the weather was on your side on all three rivers.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just to note that the Welsh Academy Encyclopaedia of Wales (p854) gives a figure of 117km for this river. Geopersona (talk) 07:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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