Talk:Riane Eisler

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Copyright Violation[edit]

I like these new edits (as of Feb 14, 2007), but most have been copied directly from http://www.partnershipway.org/html/subpages/eisler.htm and are a serious copyright infringement unless permission has been obtained. --Karuna8 15:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Absent Criticism[edit]

Criticism of Eisler is completely absent from this article, something I find surprising for any intellectual or political figure, and for a woman posited as a "second wave" feminist in my view the proponent of a pseudo-religious, mystified and erroneous reenvisaging of older visions of class societies, their development and very real social structural and ideological interdependence or holism, one surpassed by both the critical theory and penultimate realities of class societies and competitive capitalism where gender, like its factional companions, is increasingly subsumed by class and power at any scale that disregards them but for their value to tactical management and to continual illusion and misdescription, a vision palatable, like Jung to the "artistic", new religion to the fearful, corporate science to the obedient, the vote to the deluded, to mass-middle classes and the NGO-thinktank tendancies of 21st century political life and its futilities. I encountered articles on Eisler around fifteen years ago, immediately prior to the most destructive ongoing experiences of my own life in which women have played the primary role, entirely in keeping with Eisler's observed social continuities but for their empowerment and interdependence, not subordination but pursuit and celebration of violent social systems, power and that wealth poor for its disparity, including among women, for me ultimately the revelation of a violent, illegal, schizoid and obsessive new globalization cult, one quite insistent upon the pretence to equality in the worst of casinos, to flowers, fertility and cosmic feminity of mass consumers under the sway of an apparently invisible leadership without critical description at all, and crime, child abuse, exploitation, "psywar" propaganda, sexualised capitalism, commercialised life, surveillance culture and escalating extinction that have also buried the old left, statist or not, beneath their own archaic inarticulation or complicity. I would, had I relied upon ideals unable to account for what I have observed, been considerably more mystified than I actually am, as I have survived, and among observations of theory would be the apparently guided retention of outdated political descriptions and the virtualization of theory itself, to a sign. Had I lacked the ability to develop description, in fact, I would not have survived, nor critique, say, the sexual zeitgeist of LaRouche as rapidly as its context in a self-annihilating popular neoliberal femininity and a porno-capitalism as reductive to persons as the average factory job is to human possibility. There aren't, really, any real critiques of 21st century capitalism, its state-commercial power, ideological systems, population or socio-cultural state, there just aren't, and this absence has been and remains one of its most striking features. Still, criticism also, please, I can't believe there isn't any. I should add that if the proponents of "new wave" lunatic criminal capitalism, Eisler, the ossified left, or any given would-be critic, doesn't like this, they should take it up with their subject, a rephrasing of criticism altogether; you can thank me for the introduction. ExWikipedian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.190.204 (talk) 23:08, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

argle bargle[edit]

Article is way too close to the subject. we dont need an exegesis on the author, nor a postmodern critique referencing lacan and foucault. just the facts maam. and dont even get me started on the article on her book...Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This was part of a section titled "Influence" --Hipal (talk) 00:36, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In her 2008 book, Gender and Information Technology: Moving Beyond Access to Co-Create Global Partnership, Mary Kirk uses Eisler's cultural transformation theory to offer an interdisciplinary, social systems perspective on issues of access to technology.[1] Gender and Information Technology explores how shifting from dominator towards partnership systems, as reflected in four primary social institutions (communication, media, education, and business), might help us move beyond the simplistic notion of access to co-create a real digital revolution worldwide.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b Kirk, Mary. (2008). Gender and Information Technology: Moving Beyond Access to Co-Create Global Partnership. Hershey, PA: IGI Global. ISBN 978-1-59904-786-7

Rewrite of article needed[edit]

I've gone through the entire editing history of the article, looking for BLP-quality references and a good version to work from. I've found no such references, and the best version is probably the initial stub [1]. I've notified the article creator, and intend to ask for help with the two projects that indicate the subject is high-importance: Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender studies and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women writers. --Hipal (talk) 01:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I found a ref which looks third party and added that. Its very tricky to see who this person is as all the sources seem to be written/managed by her. The article even referenced "her supporters"?? I just changed the "high" importance to something more modest. Victuallers (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I've been having the same difficulties finding independent sources. She has quite a pr campaign to work around. --Hipal (talk) 14:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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