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Merge with Rail transport in Indonesia[edit]

The information in the PT Kereta Api page would do as well under the Rail transport in Indonesia page. To make editing easier I propose merging both pages and rewriting existing information. I will take a look at the responses after a couple months, if there is no protest I will merge them. Thanks. Indrak (talk) 00:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree - the two pages are too long to merge into one another. The rail transport in Indonesia should be a general page with the specific service pages split off from the other one. Merging them will inevitably lead to a loss of information. Please do not merge them. JRG (talk) 03:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree per above by JRG. Bhockey10 (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. PTKA should refer to the company, whereas the other article is about the general information of railway transportation in Indonesia (which is currently only managed by PTKA). Probably, in the future, there will be another railway companies in the country. talk —Preceding undated comment added 10:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Bus Rapid Transit[edit]

What is this section about "busses" doing in an article about "rail" transport? I don't see Bogota's BRT showing up in Rail transport in Colombia either. The BRT section should be deleted and/or go to Transport in Indonesia (which by the way already has something about the BRT). I'll check the comments here in two weeks and then will proceed with the suggested move - HyperGaruda (talk) 15:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, just move them already. Gunkarta talk 15:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Du Croo & Brauns[edit]

For Du Croo & Brauns see nl:Du Croo & Brauns. Peter Horn User talk 16:48, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an {{illm}} template to the article in order to show that link. --HyperGaruda (talk) 17:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unknown track gauges[edit]

Some track gauges are unknown elsewhere (if correct here, they would be unique worldwide). However, they are not sourced. Once they are sourced, we can add them to the {{Track gauge}} list with known gauges. They are, in § Sugar cane, § List of all locomotives in Indonesia:

Track gauge 670 mm only used in PG Kadhipaten Majalengka; Kadipaten No. 19
Track gauge 720 mm only used in PG Sindanglaut Cirebon
Track gauge 720 mm (locomotives:) Sindanglaut No. 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13; Sindanglaut No. 19
Track gauge 660 mm (locomotives:) Kadhipaten No. 2; Locomotive TD10, build by Werkspoor

(tip: in Preview, these gauges show a red warning text.) -DePiep (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to this subscription-only article by Kompas, the various sugar refineries in Java used 600 mm, 610 mm, 660 mm, 670 mm, 700 mm, 720 mm, 750 mm, 762 mm, and 900 mm track gauges. As a subscription-only article, I don't have access to the full article so I don't know whether the article delve deeper into who's using what track gauges. And as far as I know, the information regarding which place used a particular track gauges is usually only known in railfans community. Jauhsekali (talk) 09:42, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded section[edit]

The "List of all locomotives in Indonesia" section does not belongs to this article. The section made this article very bloated, and other countries "Rail transport" article also does not have any section regarding the locomotives ever operated in the whole country.

We already had the "List of Kereta Api Indonesia rolling stock classes" article for locomotives operated by KAI/its predecessor and its subsidiaries, and also the majority of the other industrial locomotives mentioned in the section does not even have a cited source or they're too obscure. If a user wished to have article(s) about Indonesian locomotive classes operated by other than KAI on English Wikipedia, they should create a separate article(s) rather than having them here.

If there's no argument in support of this section, I would remove them in a couple days (WP:BOLD). Jauhsekali (talk) 08:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The tendency to have unreferenced lists is indeed a tendency at times in the Indonesian project, I have committed what some consider at times a crime - cut and pasted to a new List of locomotives in Indonesia - and if someone wishes to compare the List of Kereta Api... and do a merge, or something similar, go ahead. The list inside the article as found was absurd and out of place. Thanks for Jauhsekali bringing up the issue... JarrahTree 11:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response and for moving them to a new page, I'll be contributing to it as best I could. Jauhsekali (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]