Talk:Quiriguá

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Classic Period Maya archaeological site of Quiriguá in Guatemala has what is possibly the largest free-standing worked monolith (pictured) in the New World?
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Review comments[edit]

Stupendous work done here on the recent rewrite & expansion, Simon- kudos! Readily agree with "B" rating at very least. Heck, why not "A"; this article should readily pass for WP:GA, and with barely a little more spit'n'polish FA ought to be well within striking distance.

Couple minor cosmetic items while I think of them:

  • once the reader's been given the context of the time period, it may be redundant having AD placed after so many of these dates. I think it would work just as well or better giving the year or century alone -- it should be clear after the first couple which millennium & era the dates belong to.
  • Also, WP:ERA recommends simply AD (without the periods) and placing AD before the year, not after (this latter not a hard and fast guide, tho').
  • Use of named references - Just my own opinion on practical citation methodology (for wp:meso articles) is to avoid them, for a couple of reasons outlined at wp:meso discussion. However I can see some merit here, perhaps, where there's a whole bunch & many of are reused. Would be interested in your thoughts on citation styling & mechanics for project articles, not just this one but in general...

But really, this is excellent work done on the article. I'd say, give it a passthrough or two to dot i's and cross t's, and put it up for good article nom- at least. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 08:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, cjllw. I'll reread the whole article and clean up the dates etc., then submit it for GA. Just when I thought I'd finished kicking it into shape...oh well...
As for the citing style, I'll comment on the WP Meso talkpage, although as far as this article goes I found named references quite handy during the writing process. Simon Burchell (talk) 14:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

15 May 2010: First sentence says "south-eastern Guatemala", I think it should be only "eastern Guatemala". Best regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.176.26 (talk) 18:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aldous Huxley quote[edit]

I've cut the following line from the article and pasted it here on the offchance someone can give a ref for this visit and quote:

Sir Aldous Huxley, who passed this way in the 1930s, aptly noted that Quiriguá's stelae and monuments commemorate "human triumph over time and matter and the triumph of time and matter over man".

Simon Burchell (talk) 14:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's from his Beyond the Mexique Bay: A Traveller's Journal‎ (1934), although it's slightly misquoted. Per the 1950 Chatto & Windus edn (p.42), the correct/full quote should be "And there they still stood, obscurely commemorating man's triumph over time and matter and the triumph of time and matter over man." I think the whole sentence in the article comes direct from user:Authenticmaya's website, a legacy from when he was active around here adding bits in to numerous Maya articles. As such, it shld prob be rephrased so it doesn't just reproduce the material he'd previously put up on his site. --cjllw ʘ TALK 14:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that! With a more accurate quote I've now managed to track down an electronic copy here. Simon Burchell (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Demarest 2005 cite[edit]

One of the inline cites (#51 currently) is given as "Demarest 2005, p.556". I gather this refers to The Terminal Classic in the Maya lowlands, however Demarest, Rice & Rice are the editors of this multi-contributor book. Going from the book's table of contents in LoC catalogue database, p.556 ought to be in the chapter "The Rise and Fall of Terminal Classic Yaxuna, Yucatan, Mexico" by Charles Suhler et al. However that's from the 2004 hbk edition, I suppose the 2005 pbk edn's pagination is probably different- is that the correct chapter that ought to be cited, or another one? --cjllw ʘ TALK 05:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the ref in the article, the page no. is correct as given, the chapter is The Terminal Classic in the Maya lowlands: Assessing collapses, transitions, and transformations in a section titled "The Eastern Lowlands: Declines, Transitions, or Transformations". Best regards - and thanks for checking this stuff! Simon Burchell (talk) 08:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, np. Thx for clearing that up, somehow I was doubtful it came from the chapter on yaxuna, & mismatch was attributable to diff btw the hbk & pbk edns. Keep up the excellent work, cheers! --cjllw ʘ TALK 22:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Please insert {{TFA-editnotice}} in its editnotice; since it's now showing on the Main Page. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —fetch·comms 02:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much! Acps110 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Do we have a source for File:Larger Southern Maya area v3.svg? A455bcd9 (talk) 15:34, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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