Talk:QI/Archive 1

list of topics

Does anyone think it might be "quite interesting" to put a list of the topics covered in each episode with an link the approropritate Wikipedia article. I'm thinking of subjects like Douglas "wrong way" Corrigan, Mike the Headless Chicken etc.. Jooler

List of episodes of QI? Would be very good. violet/riga (t) 17:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Removal of Amazon link

I removed the link to the DVD QI game on Amazon.co.uk. This link can be taken as advertising as it contributes nothing of substance to the article nor is it listed as a reference. The link is included below if it is judged to have been appropriate for this article and needs to be reinserted.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BHZ1FG/qid=1130442443/

Criticisms?

Where are these criticisms from? They read like they are simply the opinion of an editor. If you actually have a read through of these, they pretty much comprise of the point of the show. --SnakeSeries 23:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I've requested sources. If it is one editor's opinion it falls under WP:NOR. I will check the page history and see who added it. Joe D (t) 23:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I put in the reference to the moons as a highlight of the show. I don't remember putting it under a "Criticisms" heading - this was done later. They aren't criticisms - I'd suggest renaming this "highlights" or linking to the QI website directly. --Ritchie333 20:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

QI Building

The section on the QI building needs editing as, alas, it is no longer run by QI. It is now the Corner Club. I walk past it every day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.228.209 (talk) 19:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC) I too live near the building and have updated the section according to my knowledge of the new bar, which includes visiting it before and after the change in management. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.174.200 (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

References

I've added a reference section, linking the major quotes of the show to the episodes in the list. Although the entry for episode 7 of series 2 is incomplete, Dara Ó Briain has only appeared in two episodes so far, one where he gave the triple point of water, and the other were he was corrected. ISD 12:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, bravo. That was very helpful. You are a gem! Thumbs up! Minervamoon 02:39, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Media

QI's website has the theme tune (and other media) at the bottom of this page - they suggest that "...you can download, link to, or put whole onto your own website or favourite forum." I'm not sure on wikipedia's policy on media content, but it's avaliable for inclusion if wanted / needed. --H2g2bob 19:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, include it Minglex

D'oh! I think I mis-read the page -- it's freely avaliable for download, but probably not under terms compatible with wikipedia. --H2g2bob 23:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Picture

I've updated the Stephen Fry picture to something a little more flattering (and slightly more current). :) Minervamoon 00:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Quite, that's one natty purple tie --H2g2bob 11:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thought so. Hence why I jumped right to that episode to search for a suitable cap, and spend about two hours gathering shots to choose among. That tie really lets you sass how much of a hoopy frood Stephen is. Check out that look, too: Indominable. And his hair is marvelous. Even that picture doesn't do it justice! I was stuck between the current one and this one, because aside from his holding up the QI cards, that strand of hair over his eye is just so enticing. He needs to show us more of that floppy-banged look [hypen necessary! Otherwise, ambiguity ensues, which offers a completely unintentional, however hilarious, mental image].

All of that you can file under "rationalization as to why the current pic is perfect". Ying tong iddle I po! Minervamoon 02:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Frequent Participants

Just so there's no confusion about why some people are listed in the article, whereas others are not, here's a breakdown of how many episodes (out of 49, including the as-yet unaired episodes of series 4) each "frequent" guest is in:

Frequent Participants

Rich Hall: 14

Jo Brand: 13

Phill Jupitus: 12

Bill Bailey: 11

Sean Lock: 10

Clive Anderson: 8

John Sessions: 8

Not-so-frequent Participants

Jimmy Carr: 5

Jeremy Hardy: 4

Jeremy Clarkson: 4

Minervamoon 18:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Desperate to Know

Why wasn't Alan on the last episode (24/11/06 on BBC4) of QI? His seat left empty. 194.145.135.69 19:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

See List of episodes of QI#Episode 10 "Divination" for the reason Foxhill 20:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Points

What about some info on the scoring system? I'm not sure what it is but i think its one point for a right answer and -10 for a wrong one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jake95 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

The points are "a number" of points for interesting answers (or even interesting talk in general), and -10 for obvious but wrong answers. The obvious but wrong answers are set by the tv people before the show, and mainly triggered by the misleading question in the general ignorance round. --h2g2bob 21:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

In the introduction it says that points are given for interesting answers 'regardless whether they are right'. Surely this is wrong? In the most recent series they never do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.232 (talk) 21:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Buzzers

"The first three buzzers were the electronic voice of a supermarket checkout ("Cashier number 1/2/3 please"); Davies' was someone announcing a train being delayed. However, Davies had the electronic voice ("Cashier number 4 please") in another episode."

I've never been to a supermarket where they've told me which 'cashier' to go to? I thought this was a Post Office reference? --Mister Macbeth 19:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Some branches of Tesco Metro use them for the basket only brigade. They use them in branches of Barclay's bank and train stations too, so I wouldn't say it was a supermarket only thing Foxhill 19:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A couple of banks do it, but also larger retail stores (big Primarks, for example). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.137.240 (talk) 18:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Clean Up

I think this article needs a clean up. For example, most articles do not have a list of trivia. Also, the extra tasks could be moved into the episode lists, each task referenced with its own episode. ISD 18:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Seperate article for QI books?

I'm fairly new to wiki so please accept my apologies if I'm not following convention...

There will be two new books released this Autumn (The Book of Animal Ignorance and The QI Annual 2008). Would it be appropriate to merge the QI culture section that refers to the books and the section from the General Ignorance article about the books into a single article? Grizzlyqi 14:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

It could be a good idea to instead have an article about QI culture, and a seperate General Ignorance article. ISD 20:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Both these articles have now made. ISD 16:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Peer review?

I was think of giving this article a Peer review review to see how it can be improved. What does everyone else think? ISD 08:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Seeing as no-one had objected, I've decided to put the article up for a peer review to see how it can be inproved. ISD 15:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Article for Guest List?

Should there be a new list article of guests in order of the number of appearences on QI? Or will it just be list overkill?

I think that might be going too far. ISD 08:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Passed

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

I cleaned up a little redundant wording, but looks good overall. Congrats and thank you to everyone who worked on this article. shoy 20:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Note: per [1], I've removed the DVD cover [[2]] from the article, as it has no fair use rationales. shoy 20:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

External Links

A couple of links in the External Links have been repeatedly removed and replaced in this article. One of those being qi transcripts dot com and the other QI Talk. IMO, after reading the WP:EL both of these websites should be included. The former (which has been removed) should be included because of reason 3: "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to... amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks)". Although the second link has been removed on several occasions because it is a blog it is officially recognised by the QI production staff and is therefore considered a "recognized authority". Grizzlyqi 18:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I concur - both links should be included. violet/riga (t) 20:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Disagree, especially about the blog. A blog is a blog, and therefore not a WP:RS. - fchd 20:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Official blogs are acceptable, and this one is fully sanctioned by the QI team. violet/riga (t) 20:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The transcript site has also been lauded and even advertised by the QI production team (e.g., at this link, in a thread started by a QI researcher). And as for the blog, another of the QI researchers writes for it. While neither of the sites are, per se, official, they are officially recognised. Minervamoon 21:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not concerned about the blog but full transcripts are copyright violations. Individual members of the production team do not hold the copyright to the programme -- the BBC does -- therefore whether or not they "recognise" it is irrelevant. See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works. Brad 22:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The BBC does not own the copyright to the programme. They have only purchased the right to show the programme a certain number of times (as has UKTV Gold). The copyright is owned by QI ltd and since John Lloyd the producer and creator of QI has given his permission for QI transcripts to be written, there is no copyright violation.Grizzlyqi 20:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake about the copyright ownership. Do you have a source for Lloyd giving explicit permission for the transcripts? I can't see anything on the site itself or that forum thread. Brad 11:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I have spoken to the owner of the website and QI's commercial director Justin Gayner. Both say that the permission was given via a private message on the forum.Grizzlyqi 13:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I should also add that there is a note at the bottom of the transcripts website with regards to copyright.Grizzlyqi 13:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Permission was initially given in person by Mr Lloyd, and later, corroborated in private message.Minervamoon 14:05, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, I won't push this anymore. They're great transcripts, by the way! Brad 09:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

"A peak in Darien"

This reference in the quote from Stephen Fry is an allusion to a line from Keats' On First Looking into Chapman's Homer: I've linked this to the appropriate Darien, in Panama. -- The Anome 12:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Covers & images

Is there a reason for all the images being aligned to the right..? It surely looks much better aesthetically to have them (well-spaced) on both sides. ntnon (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Normally, most articles tend to have all the images are set to one side so it looks more uniform and easier to read. ISD (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough if it's standard. I prefer the more balanced, neater look, myself. ntnon (talk) 09:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Foreign language versions

I have noted that there is a significantly large article about the same topic in the Dutch wiki. Should there be an link between the two? I wouldn't be sure how to do one if there should be.Grizzlyqi (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

There already is a link. Under the tool box on the left hand size of the webpage is a language section. There is both a Dutch version and a Welsh version. ISD (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Why was my edit removed?

I added a line saying when the new series is expected to be aired from a reliable source, (www.qi.com), and it has been removed. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.89.160 (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't remove the edit myself but I can tell you that the date for the start of the series has not yet been set and that the information on the website is incorrect. This relates to on going negotiations about a potential move to BBC1.Grizzlyqi (talk) 15:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The QI Test

The team behind QI are planning a daytime version with members of the public as contestants, with the working title The QI Test. I expect there's an announcement somewhere on QI.com, or there will be in the very near future, but anyway there's the bald fact and you heard it here first. On the talk page. Not the article. Aren't you glad you read the talk pages? -- 212.139.80.192 (talk) 21:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

That is not true at all. Have you ever watched QI? Because I can tell you now that no matter what you say, there won't be a daytime version. But I am glad in a way. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 17:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Alan

I remember reading in interview with Alan a few years ago stating he is sometimes told the answers beforehand so he can come up with humours anecdotes for the show. Has anyone else heard about this? --82.42.150.196 (talk) 23:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No. Not that I've heard of. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 21:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

As I understand it, the panellists are offered the CHOICE of knowing what the QUESTIONS are in advance so that they can come up with witty answers. Apparently most of them decline to know the questions in advance.--Gaunt (talk) 21:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

(I know this is an old topic, but5 think I could clear this up) In the extras on tyhe series 1 DVD, it is stated that each contestant is provided with a researcher and a list of topics. It is also stated that Davis never uses these resources. Hope I was of some small assistance. Tory88 (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Dutch Version & QI Headquarters

I have created a new section for the Dutch version of QI in anticipation of this section becoming much larger once the series has started. Reliable sources in English and more information about the Dutch version would be very useful. I expect the Dutch version may warrant its own article if it is successful.

Also, since it is now more than two years since the QI Building was sold, I have reduced this section to a brief note. Any objections to this?Grizzlyqi (talk) 23:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I have no objection. Also, I think the Dutch version of QI probably has its own article on the Dutch Wikipedia. ISD (talk) 06:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't as yet, only a subsection of the translated version of this articleGrizzlyqi (talk) 09:24, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Running time for BBC2 repeat of series 'F' episodes

I see from the BBC's online listings [3] that the Saturday BBC2 repeat of the BBC1 Friday episode is 40 minutes long, ie 10 minutes have been added. I'm guessing that this is a longer cut (or perhaps contains other out-takes?) but is it worth mentioning in the article or the series listing page for 'F'? I would assume that the 40 minute extended repeat will be a regular feature of Series 'F'

Indeed, following the precedent set by Have I Got News for You and Have I Got a Bit More News for You, the Saturday extended repeat is entitled QI XL. I've added it to the article. Chris 42 (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Is every one of the Season 6 episode repeats 40 minutes? My set only has 40-minute eposides for shows 7 and 9-12. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 02:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

(PS, what do they say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is?) AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 02:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Silly buzzers

The Wikipedia visitor is asked to read

Davies's buzzer is usually sillier or more jokey than those of the other panellists, and has been the last to be demonstrated in every episode except for the unbroadcast pilot, in which he went first and Eddie Izzard, with a sillier buzzer, went last.

With the exception of the alliterative assonant poetry of "Eddie Izzard, with a sillier buzzer" this is like off-night Monty Python. Could it be made more fatuous?--Wetman (talk) 15:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

We can try. Do you have any suggestions? Shreevatsa (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

List of QI episodes for FL

This is just to alert editors of this article that I have nominated the List of QI episodes for featured list status. If you wish to share your views, visit the list of featured list candidates. ISD (talk) 08:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

The list has been promoted. ISD (talk) 08:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject QI?

How would people feel about a WikiProject covering QI related topics? Would anyone be interested in taking part in such a project? ISD (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Strikes me as having far, far too narrow a scope... _TalkIslander 16:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Theme music

"The music for the unbroadcast pilot was planned to be "Wonderful World" by Herman's Hermits. However, the producers were forbidden the use of the song and the DVD edition of the pilot features Goodall's composition" - oh come on, "forbidden" sounds as if the license holders had some kind of personal hatred of the producers and told them that if they dared to use the song, there would be a pox on all their houses. I imagine what actually happened was that the programme makers couldn't get clearance to use it (or, more likely, it would have taken too big a chunk out of the show's budget) so they decided to go for a cheaper option Dom Kaos (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

QI Talk Forums

There are actually more than 15,000 registered users on the forums. Sadly, a considerable number are spambots. My best estimate is that there are 11,000 valid users (it's not possible to actually tell from the admin board) - I corrected the article to show this, but see it's been revised to 13,500. I am a moderator on the forum and I think the 11,000 is closer to reality. Guinevere50 (talk) 23:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The essence of wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. You may well be right in your guesstimate, but unless it has appeared in a reliable source then the only verifiable figure is 13,500. --Malleus Fatuorum 13:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

3 December 2009 show

One of the teams on tonight's show features three members: Sandi Toksvig, John Hodgman and Sean Lock. Is this the first time there have been three people on a QI team? Is is worth mentioning in the article? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

QI is not a team game. Each person plays for themselves. It is the first time that five people have played mind. ISD (talk) 08:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I realise that. I meant that three people were sitting at one desk. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Archiveing?

Can we start archiving this? It's rather long! Greggydude (talk) 19:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

If you want to, please do so. ISD (talk) 20:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunatly, I'm not capable. (It was more of a plea!) Greggydude (talk) 11:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)