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Date correction[edit]

I revised upward the terminus ante quem for the play's production. To my knowledge, no one dates the PV later than the late 5th cent. Ifnkovhg 07:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hesiod comparison[edit]

Added a bit about Aeschylus vs. Hesiod. Ifnkovhg 20:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grandson[edit]

I don't have a reference for this or I'd add it, but one of the theories is that the author of Prometheus Bound was the grandson of the famous tragedian Aeschylus, who by Athenian naming practice would also be named Aeschylus. RJFJR (talk) 17:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Authorship[edit]

I can give no reference for this argument, but someone else may be able to help. A scholarly person I met, whose name I cannot remember, told me that the unAeschylean dramaturgy alone convinced him that the play ws not by Aeschylus. Nothing really happens except a seies of visits. There is no forward movement. This in addition to the other arguments. KJ Dover, whom I asked personally for his view, did not come down on either side. He did not claim to be an authority on tragedy, though. Seadowns (talk) 21:03, 5 September 2017 (UTC) If OR were not forbidden, I would say that according to Aristotle's definition this play is not a tragedy at all, since it has no plot. Another reason for it's not being Aeschylus's work. Esedowns (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think that saying there’s no plot is the way to go, because a large number of sources refer to and discuss the plot in this play. David Grene, the translator, for example, talks a lot about the plot of Prometheus Bound, and what it means, and so on. He’s, by far, not the only source. Åüñîçńøł (talk) 05:14, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not in Aristotle's sense, which is what I said. Esedowns (talk) 01:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC) @Esedowns: I don’t know what Aristotle said that you think supports your claim. If you want to make a case you should consider quoting the definition, then indicate how you think it applies here. - Åüñîçńøł (talk) 20:23, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is so much in the Poetics that would serve, but I think this very brief extract suffices (Butcher's trans., 1450b2-4):

"Tragedy is an imitation of an action that is complete, and whole, and of a certain magnitude."

If indeed there is any action in PV it is hard to find, incomplete, partial, and of no magnitude, or so I think. If this is not enough I could produce more.

Surely a plot should be apparent to all, it should not require a learned person to scrutinise a work and come up saying yes, I have detected a plot? Esedowns (talk) 18:13, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think what Aristotle said applies. I don’t see why not. I’d repeat what I said above: I don't think saying "there's no plot" is the way to go, because reliable sources discuss the plot and have a lot to say. Of course you’re certainly welcome to your opinions. We may be spinning wheels, so I'll let it go. - Åüñîçńøł (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I'll let it lie. Thanks for your interest and remarks. Esedowns (talk) 23:31, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Euphorion of Calchis?[edit]

hey. um... the link in the description window goes to the Euphorion disambiguiation page, should it be redirected to Euphorion of Calchis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.135.127 (talk) 11:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chalcis? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seadowns (talk • contribs) 18:23, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Mentions?[edit]

Maybe a section could be added with the title Notable Mentions - I became aware of this play through the HBO drama "The Wire" in Series 5 Episode 7, Clay Davis speaks of this play which can be seen in this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZI02m7JOE - I'm not proficient enough with contributing to Wikipedia to do any more then mention this here. LazarusCato 01:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)LazarusCato —Preceding unsigned comment added by LazarusCato (talk • contribs)