Talk:Princess Elena of Romania

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Picture[edit]

Shall we change article’s picture, It looks so obscure? Ethan2345678 (talk) 10:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Law[edit]

And, IP, enlighten us: provide the number of the law and its year. E.g. Law no. X of 20XX. The proof is in the pudding. We have no use for a project of law which died in the chambers.

The document you provided is anonymous. It is written under it President of the Chamber of Deputies and President of the Senate but no real name is given. They both remain anonymous since presidents of flesh and blood of the chambers never signed it. That law never passed.

The PDF itself is signed (authored) by Danut Nancu, who never was a member of the Parliament.

And, remember: a number and an year, that's all you need to prove me wrong. You need to provide up to 8 digits in order to show everyone that I'm mistaken. First four digits: the number of the law. Last four digits: its year. The number of the law probably has only one or two digits, and two digits of the year are known: 20. So, you only have to provide four digits. Or, at most, five. The year being 2016 or later. So the third digit of the year is either 1 or 2. If it's 2, then the fourth digit is either 0 or 1. See how easy I made it? You only have six choices for the year. According to http://www.expert-monitor.ro/LexMonitor/Demo/index.jsp , only 1718 laws were published to become enacted between 1 January 2016 and today, so there are not that many choices. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Succession box[edit]

There is no such thing as an order of succession to something that doesn't exist. When a monarchy ceases to be a monarchy, there cease to be rules of succession. The former monarch simply proclaiming that he is changing the order of succession to this no-longer-existent title has no force of law, because he has no legal basis for defining succession to something that doesn't exist. As such, displayng a succession box to a made-up title based on made-up rules has zero validity. Agricolae (talk) 23:48, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is ongoing let me amplify and address an argument repeated in edit summaries of reverts - the former royal house of Romania can, if they so choose, select whomever they want to be leader of the family, and in turn whom they want to be the future head of their family, but that is not the same as there being a line of succession to a 'former crown', which, being former, has no actual existence and no constitutional or legal framework for succession order, makin any such order entirely arbitrary, subject to the whims of the family themselves, and thus far, far down the notability scale from being heir to any title that is an actual reality and has legally-defined rules of succession. Wikipedia does sometimes take notice of family headship if the family is important enough, but not of lines of succession to titleless family headship. Agricolae (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]