Talk:Prince Egon von Fürstenberg

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Who spreads information about persons being descendants of Empress Josephine. Since she was NOT an ancestress of Grand Duchess Stephanie of Baden (only a relative by marriage, as well as ADOPTIVE MOTHER), half of those spread claims are untrue. 213.243.175.235 17:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Page Move or Disambiguation?[edit]

He had several famous relatives also named Egon. They don't have articles yet, but it could be a problem later. --Jpbrenna 23:10, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also:

...'other sources suggest that AIDS was the underlying cause, given the prince's open bisexuality'.

the wording is such that it is almost assumed that being bisexual automatically entitles you to be HIV-positive.

Someone appears to have done a cut-and-paste move here, non-compliant with GFDL, breaking attribution, and leaving the impression that they, not others, wrote the article.[edit]

Someone appears to have done a cut-and-paste move here, non-compliant with GFDL, breaking attribution, and leaving the impression that they, not others, wrote the article. - Nunh-huh 00:43, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Original article content appears to have been plagiarised[edit]

The following is the text from a source that appears to have been largely the cut-and-paste source of the original version of this article (whose vestiges remain, and appear as of today as unsourced):

Prince Egon von Furstenberg was born in Lausanne, Switzerland in June 1946 to a noble German family on his father Tassilo's side. His mother Clara, was Italian, the sister of Giovanni Agnelli who owned Fiat Motors.Egon was educated in Switzerland where he obtained his degree in economics. He was to go into banking but instead in 1972, he joined Parson's School of Design in New York. He worked at Macy's Departmental Store in his spare time.Fürstenberg began his career as a buyer for Macy’s, and took night classes at the Fashion Institute of Technology. He began designing clothes for plus size women, and later expanding to full fashion and ready-to-wear lines.On July 15, 1969 at Montfort l’Amaury, Yvelines, France he married the Belgium born Diana Simone Michelle Halfin, daughter of a Holocaust survivor. She was Jewish, and the senior Fürstenbergs objected to the couple’s union on that basis. They hat two children, Alexander Egon and Tatiana Desireée. Diane von Furstenberg retained his name even though they were divorced after 10 years of separation. She is a renowned American fashion designer in her own right.In 1975 Egon started his own label in the United States, marketing a line of pullovers and men's shirts. He began womenswear in 1977. In 1983, he started up his couture business in Italy. In 1990, Egon von Furstenberg introduced wedding and evening dresses into his collections.During Rome's Fashion Week, his models would wear his creations while walking down Rome's Spanish Steps so famed as a tourist attraction, instead of a catwalk.His house eventually included many other lines such as menswear, cosmetics, sunglasses, furnishing fabrics, ties, handbags and leather goods.Egon von Fürstenberg died at Spallanzani Hospital in Rome. According to the New York Post, Fürstenberg’s widow stated that he died of liver cancer caused by a hepatitis C infection picked up in the 1970s; other sources suggest that AIDS was the underlying cause.^[1]

^ FMD, 2015, "Designers: Egon von Fürstenberg, Fashion Model Directory (FMD, online), see [1], accessed 14 July 2015.

This source appeared in the external links section, but in no inline citations. I will be adding it to Further reading.

The similarity of the material is clear, especially if you go back to the article dated 15 January 2006, see here [2] and for 15 July 2015, see [3] (i.e., prior to most recent text-altering edits). The nature of the unions and intersections of the sets of information in each version seems to make clear that the flow of information was from the FMD source to Wikipedia (and not that FMD is a WP mirror site)—note nature of omissions in each place.

Le Prof 71.201.62.200 (talk) 01:33, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looking back at this now, it was apparently I who first wrote an article on Egon von Furstenberg - a stub right after his death in 2004 - at [4]. The article that then developed was cut and pasted (rather than moved) to an article title with the umlaut about 2006, and the original article changed into a redirect here. I haven't investigated exactly when and who added the FMD duplicative material, but it seems to have been about that time. - Nunh-huh 05:40, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] FMD, 2015, "Designers: Egon von Fürstenberg, Fashion Model Directory (FMD, online), see [1], accessed 14 July 2015.

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