Talk:President of Senegal

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Term length[edit]

The infobox says terms are five years long. I remember Sall saying he would change them back to five years, after Wade increased them to seven, but I have read nothing stating that such a change has since been made. Does anyone know? Everyking (talk) 20:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The term limits are very confusing.
  1. Wade's first term was 7 years: 2000–2007
  2. Wade's second term was 5 years: 2007–2012
  3. Sall's first term was 7 years: 2012–2019
  4. Sall's second term is expected to be 5 years: 2019–2024
Explanations of the length of term in chronological order:
  1. Wade's first term was 7 years long, same as previous president.
  2. From 2001 Senegalese constitutional referendum#References, a source says: 7 January 2001 Constitutional Referendum [...] Main Points: Reduction of Presidential term from 7 to 5 years, Unicameral Legislature (Abolishing the Senate). During first term of Wade, the referendum changed the term from seven to five. So far, the first and second terms of Wade make sense.
  3. Why Sall's first term was 7 years doesn't seem to be explained in Wikipedia. Wade also ran for a third term, as his first term wasn't covered by the term limits introduced in the 2001 changes to the constitution. As per this Bloomberg article published on November 23, 2010: In a September 2009 interview, [Wade] told Voice of America that he would run for a third consecutive seven-year term – so it seems that the term changed from five years back to seven some time between 2001 and 2009 – this part doesn't seem to be covered anywhere in Wikipedia.
  4. As for Sall's second term, as per 2016 Senegalese constitutional referendum: A total of 15 changes were proposed to the constitution: [...] 6. The restoration of the five year term for the presidential mandate, source: [1], quote Cette révision est accompagnée de certains aspects innovants. Il s’agit entre autres de: [...] – la restauration du quinquennat pour le mandat présidentiel (see wikt:quinquennat).
Trying to find sources to explain the duration of Sall's first term:
  • In 2012, just before or during Sall's first term: An archived version of constitution from 2012 (dated 22 janvier 2001) has the following: Article 27 La durée du mandat du Président de la République est de sept ans. Le mandat est renouvelable une seule fois., translated: Article 27 The term of office of the President of the Republic shall be seven years. The term of office shall be renewable only once. This particular government website doesn't seem to exist anymore.
  • In 2016 (during Sall's first term), before 2019 election: version of the constitution on the ohchr.org claims that article 27 (translated) is The duration of the mandate of the President of the Republic is of five years. No one may exercise more than two consecutive mandates.
This source also makes references to constitutional law No. 2016-10 (which seems to correspond to 2016 Senegalese constitutional referendum), quote:

Au total, cette réforme vise à apporter les innovations suivantes : [...] 15. l’intangibilité des dispositions relatives au mode d’élection, à la durée et au nombre de mandats consécutifs du Président de la République. [...] Telle est l’économie du présent projet de révision de la constitution du 22 janvier 2001 qui sera soumis au référendum. [...]

Les articles 4, 6, 26, 27, 28, 58, 59, 60, 62, 71, 78, 81, 85, 86, 89, 92, 102 et 103 de la Constitution du 22 janvier 2001 sont modifiés et remplacés par les dispositions suivantes [...] « Article 27. - La durée du mandat du Président de la République est de cinq ans. [...] »

Translated:

Overall, this reform aims to bring the following innovations: [...] 15. the intangibility of the provisions relating to the mode of election, to the duration and to the number of consecutive mandates of the President of the Republic. [...] Such is the economy of the present draft revision of the constitution of January 22, 2001 which will be submitted to referendum. [...]

Articles 4, 6, 26, 27, 28, 58, 59, 60, 62, 71, 78, 81, 85, 86, 89, 92, 102 and 103 of the Constitution of January 22, 2001 are amended and replaced by the following provisions [...] “Article 27. - The term of office of the President of the Republic is five years [...]”.

(both: emphasis mine).
Two points:
  1. 2012 version of constitution had seven year terms for president.
  2. a constitutional law from 2016 claims to be changing the 2001 version of the constitution, and it is changing the term to five years.
Which makes it even more confusing. —⁠andrybak (talk) 07:36, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I found the explanation for "term changed from five years back to seven some time between 2001 and 2009" in the article 2016 Senegalese constitutional referendum: When elected in 2012, incumbent President Macky Sall had promised on the campaign trail to shorten the presidential term back from seven years to five years which would reverse a 2008 Constitutional Revision from the previous president. And as per Abdoulaye Wade#2012 election for third term: In July 2008, the National Assembly approved a constitutional amendment increasing the length of the presidential term to seven years, as it was prior to the adoption of the 2001 constitution. This extension would not apply to Wade's 2007–2012 term [...] with an article with unclear year of publication as source, quote Opposition groups [...] insist that such a crucial constitutional amendment should have been tabled for a referendum instead.
The referendums have separated articles (2001 & 2016), but the "2008 Constitutional Revision" doesn't. It should probably be covered both in 2012 Senegalese presidential election and in List of presidents of Senegal. —⁠andrybak (talk) 08:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Updated 2012 Senegalese presidential election: Special:Diff/1149869087/1159433001. Clarified the year of publication of the source in Abdoulaye Wade: Special:Diff/1159432904. Added a summary of term limits changes to this article: Special:Diff/1159430500/1159435266. —⁠andrybak (talk) 08:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 July 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to List of presidents of Senegal. (non-admin closure) — YoungForever(talk) 23:05, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


List of President of Senegal → List of Presidents of Senegal – I expect this move is uncontroversial, but since this page has an incredibly messy move history going back many years, I figured we should have a clear WP:CONSENSUS on where it should stay. "List of President of Senegal" is an incoherent title. It is both grammatical nonsense and factually misleading, since there is more than one item in the list. There are also hundreds of "List of presidents of" and "List of prime ministers of" pages on Wikipedia, and this is the only one that is of the form "List of president of". I know that consistency between different countries' pages is a touchy subject, but the consensus on how this type of title should be written seems settled. Astrophobe (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is currently a list, and so it should still be titled "List of" and everything else can redirect here until someone decides that they want to write a separate article about the office itself. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:53, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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