Talk:Polistes nimpha

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Note from creator[edit]

What I have done is create a wikipedia page for Polistes nimpha so the public can gain a basic understanding of the species. It is by no means completely thorough and all inclusive, but this article provides a strong foundation about the species and its behavior.

- Chiara Rosenbaum

Class Comments[edit]

Nice start to the page! A couple of things. Instead of referring to the youtube video in your references I linked it directly in the text, for easy access. Also another thing that I noticed is that even though you have robust references, they are not cited as constantly in text as they should be. You sometimes have whole paragraphs without any references. For example the first paragraph in the Division of labor and resources section, and the living in groups section. don't be afraid to cite sources more than once, if you use them more than once. Also there is a special way to code when you cite a source more than once so that it only shows up once in your references section. I've fixed that for you, go in and look at the coding so that you know what to do for that in the future! Atkarp (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This page is very comprehensive and covers a lot of different useful topics. My main contribution to this page was editing the writing for clarity. There were a couple of distinct changes I made. I went through the article and changed all the places where Polistes nimpha was used in a plural, rather than singular sense. I also edited the text for clarity and other grammatical errors, in order to make the article flow better. I made new paragraphs when necessary, and added small phrases that did not need new sources. I specifically changed a lot in the description and identification section. Also, I changed the formatting of the “Living in Groups” section. It was added in bullet formation, and I thought this was distracting from the rest of the article. Your information seems to be right on point, and I hope my changes will help make the page more readable! Jamie Halpern (talk) 11:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions/Corrections[edit]

While this article is definitely off to a good start, here are some potential suggestions to consider for furthering the page's clarity and content, as well as certain corrections I made myself:

  • The “Description and identification” section was lengthy, so I added a subheading to differentiate between the sections discussing identification of the wasp from the sections discussing the identification of the nest.
  • In the taxobox, there was a typo of the synonym Vespa nimpha that had an origin date of 1971. The correct date should have been 1791, according to the Encyclopedia of Life (Christ was not alive in 1971), so I changed it.
  • Like Atkarp said, this article had references that were used multiple times and listed individually rather than as the same reference.
    • Atkarp went in and fixed the coding before I had a chance to, but he or she missed one so I went ahead and corrected that mistake.
  • The “Living in groups” section has no citation and should be properly referenced.
  • I fixed the redundancy in the overview section that stated P. nimpha is from both India and the Indian states of Jammu and Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh.
    • Original text: They are also found in northern Africa, Pakistan, Iran, India, Jammu and Kashmir, Kazakhstan, Himachal Pradesh, Mongolia, and China.
    • Revision: It is also found in northern Africa, Pakistan, Iran, India (especially in the northern states of Jammu and Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh), Kazakhstan, Mongolia, and China.
  • I corrected several typos in the text.
    • Typo: Wasps of the genus Polistes Latreille, 1802 are good examples for studying alternative phenotypes in social insects.
      • Correction: Wasps of the genus Polistes (Latreille, 1802) are good examples for studying alternative phenotypes in social insects.
    • Typo: Polistes colonies found in Turkey are found to be univoltin (have one brood of offpsring per year).
      • Correction: Polistes colonies found in Turkey are found to be univoltine (have one brood of offspring per year).
    • Typo: The specialization of workers occurs due to age-related polytheism; workers take on specific functions depending on their age within the colony.
      • Correction: The specialization of workers occurs due to age-related polyethism; workers take on specific functions depending on their age within the colony.
    • Typo: These pioneering colonies are the first to be attacked by entomophages, such as the parasitic wasp L. argiolus, the hornet Vespa crabo, and ants.
      • Correction: These pioneering colonies are the first to be attacked by entomophages, such as the parasitic wasp L. argiolus, the hornet Vespa crabro, and ants.
  • My main contribution was to go through the article and add links so that the article was no longer isolated.
    • Specifically, I added links to Turkey, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, northern Africa, Pakistan, Iran, India, Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, China, steppe, Polistes dominulus, Latreille, palps, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, silisium, calcium, aluminum, potassium, iron, univoltine, hibernation, philopatric, parasitoid, entomophages, Vespa crabro, pheromones, exocrine gland, and hibernacula. Marecto (talk) 02:08, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edits & suggestions for clarification[edit]

Overall, this is a very thorough article. Great job - it's obvious that a lot of hard work and research went into it!

I made several minor edits. Firstly, the proper binomial name of the species referred to as P. dominulus is actually P. dominula. I have changed the article to reflect this, and have also updated all of the links so that they immediately link to the correct page instead of being redirected. I also added links to several terms in your article: Polistes, Polistes dominula (as mentioned), clypeus, and mandible.

There are a few places where I think some clarification could be helpful:

  • The binomial name of the species Polistes nimpha varies between the title of the article and the picture given in the taxobox. Is there a reason for this discrepancy? If so, it should addressed in the taxonomy section; if not, one of the two should be updated.
  • In the nesting and hierarchy section, there is a sentence that describes wasp "delivering the paper pulp-chewing-seeking". I have no idea what this phrase means, and it's not clear what behavior the article is describing here. Perhaps this section could be edited for clarity.
  • The second picture of the article shows P. nimpha killing a bee of the species Apis mellifera; however, this behavior is not explained anywhere else in the article. Is this behavior significant? If so, please explain it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruaha (talkcontribs) 05:26, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Updates from Creator[edit]

Thanks to everyone who commented on my talk page. I have taken all of your suggestions into account and updated my article. In particular, I changed the picture description to get rid of any naming discrepancy. I also reworded the nesting and hierarchy section to ensure it was more coherent and easy to understand. Unfortunately, I did not find any information in my research about P. nimpha killing bees. I apologize if the picture is misleading. I added a lot more links in my article to make it more connected and easier to find online. I have read through my article numerous times, rephrasing sentences and catching misspellings, but I am sure I have not caught them all. I appreciate any further suggestions or edits! Chiararosenbaum (talk) 03:31, 20 November 2014 (UTC) Chiara Rosenbaum[reply]