Talk:Pleasure Point roadhouse

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Cleanup[edit]

The article had a prod, which was removed - the next step is likely to be AfD, so I took it upon myself to clean up the article, remove all sourced speculation, and just present the facts. There are enough reliable sources for this article, but bear in mind most are in conjunction with the recent debate over its future. The original article is below, in its entity. Feel free to pick and choose from it. - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 02:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Original Article[edit]

The Pleasure Point Roadhouse was built in 1902-1904 by Henchy.

A former saloon owner in San Francisco.

He Spent time in the Central Valley of California.

He bought the land that now spans 38th Ave. to 41st Ave. on the coast of Pleasure point, santa cruz, california.

His large Shingle sided house and drive through Carriage house were the first large impressive buildings in this area.

The house was sited to take advantage of the coastal view and the cove below.

Research is being done to link it to the Architect L D Esty. His Pogonip Clubhouse is on the National Register of Historic Places. His father-in-law A D Houghton was architect and engineer for J D Rockerfeller. Houghton's house sat on over 100 acres of land at the tip of Soquel Pt. It was noted as a beautiful home when it burned in 1915. The pictures of the standing chimney of Houghton are like the Roadhouse chimney The Roadhouse and the Houghton house have many visual similarities, among them the window treatment.

The Pogonip Clubhouse and the Roadhouse have many similarities. Both are Brown Shingle construction in Natural settings. Very striking is the visual connection between the back of the Clubhouse and the side of the Roadhouse.

L D Esty went on, in 1931, to work with C J Ryland. A former employee of Julia Morgan. Esty went on to rebuild the Santa Cruz Mission and to build the City Halls in Santa Cruz and Monterey.

The Roadhouse pre dates the Craftsman style, yet contains many of the elements that are found in it. From the flared "Oriental" eves, to the "clinker" brick fireplace. The interior wains coating and the hardwood floors witch were covered with oriental rugs. The placement of the house to take advantage of the natural oceans setting.

The Roadhouse maybe the trendsetter that led to the Craftsman Berkeley shingle style made well known by Morgan, Maybeck and Greene and Greene. While the records are not available at this time for this century old home, the visual clues and the proximity of this site to Esty leads one to believe that more can be learned from studying this connection.

It was owned by a number of locally successful families.

It has been nominated to be listed as a Cultural Resource.

The County of Santa Cruz is considering it as a park site.

It has become a focal point in the debate of property rights vs. historic preservation

Sources

Ross Gibson HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PLEASURE POINT ROADHOUSE, 2007 2007 DPR for 2-3905 East Cliff Dr., Santa Cruz, Ca 95062

Norm Poltevan 2007 research for History Journal

Carol Swift 2007 DPR for 2-3905 East Cliff Dr., Santa Cruz, Ca 95062

Pleasure Point Roadhouse article in National Preservation Trust online http://www.nationaltrust.org/Magazine/archives/arc_news_2007/021407.htm

References to County record at links found on ipetitions.com/petition/saveroadhouse/

lost history (unusable)[edit]

As a longtime renter, I have to say this treasure was destroyed by trying to preserve it.

For 35+ years, Naslund charged virtually no rent (I paid $186/mo), in support of many people who wandered through life, or did great work from there -- e.g., John James developed an instrumental early AIDS newsletter. He's pictured in the second cabin of 2-3905 in this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/04/john-james-aids-treatments-covid-pandemic/618679/

It was only when the renters developed an adversarial relationship to Naslund and threatened to control the property through the historical designation that they were ousted and the beautiful gem torn down. This happened after the longstanding tenants who selected new renters for their kindness were ousted by a more politicized group.

But such is anecdotal and unattributable, and hence unusable.

I would recommend a list of "notable tenants" but, aside from John who has embraced some level of public life, all those I know prefer their privacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.131.97.80 (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]