Talk:Phyletism

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Although phyletism especially belongs to the vocabulary of the Eastern Orthodox Church, there should perhaps be discussion of similar phenomenon within other Churches, such as the Southern Baptist Church, which has a long record of black/white racism.

Also, within the Roman Catholic Church, there were strong ethnic rivalries in the early 20th century, with Irish-American priests sometimes rivalizing for parishes with Italian-American, German-American and French-American priests. The National Black Catholic Congress was founded in order to better include African Americans in the Church and to fight against perceived discrimination. Some have even described the Hutu-Tutsi conflict in Rwanda/Burundi as a kind of phyletism, since both groups shared parishes and Church-affiliated schools while being very much publicly divided.

This is not the same, however, as the typical Greek-Russian phyletism that is common in many diasporas, esentially because the Roman Catholic bishop of a given Latin-rite diocese usually comes from the dominant/uncontested ethnic group. ADM (talk) 06:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... good point. Since I only learned the word from you today, I assumed its meaning was restricted to discussing Orthodox ecclesiology. However, unless we can find reliable sources that look at phyletism outside the Orthodox churches, this smells like original research.

I have been focusing on phyletism with respect to Orthodox Christianity. Perhaps we will need an article on Phyletism in general and another Phyletism (Eastern Orthodox) that talks about phyletism specifically among the Eastern Orthodox.

What are your thoughts?

--Richard (talk) 06:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not original research if we can source it. However, I was just making (unsourced) comments to point out that ethnic division is not a purely Eastern Orthodox thing ; the comments would obviously need better documentation, even if they are quite truthful. I'd be patient and leave that for another day though. ADM (talk) 16:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citogenesis[edit]

The source I removed was is in fact Cours de droit canon: Introduction aux sources de la tradition canonique de l'Eglise in French. Therefore, I am not sure it is a good idea to AGF the person who added this source with a translated title and without page numbers.
It seems citogenesis has already happened here. Veverve (talk) 04:05, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]