Talk:Pete Postlethwaite

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Old TV play[edit]

I saw Pete in an old TV play where he played the boss of a small plant hire company. He was being threatened by a crime boss played by Terence Rigby. Does anyone know the name of the play? Gillean666 16:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

This actor's picture is unrecognisable. Could someone try and find a replacement?

Last of the Mohicans ?[edit]

His filmography shows Last of the Mohicans...What character did Postlethwaite play in that film? Engr105th (talk) 16:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB lists the character as Captain Beams. Micahmedia (talk) 06:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He's the British officer sent to arrest Hawkeye, Daniel Day Lewis's character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.26.82 (talk) 02:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Importance of testicular cancer questioned[edit]

An IP raised a concern that the fact that "Postlethwaite was diagnosed with testicular cancer in 1990, and had one testicle removed" should not be included in the article. Just refactoring their complaint to the proper forum. ~SunDragon34 (talk) 00:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the problem is that the reference is a blogspot, there is an interview in the Guardian which also brings it up, and is more authoritative, which I used to replace the old support the other one. Also re-arranged the paras so it's not such a blunt intro to the section. If the IP just wants to leave it out of the article because it's not nice or important enough to have in there, Pete Postlethwaite seems keen to include his bodily journey in interviews. To avoid censoring the article, I see no reason for it to be taken out. I feel using adding the stronger reference improves the article, so thank you for noticing that item, Julia Rossi (talk) 04:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A biography is about a person's life. For anyone who has (had) cancer, it is a significant event in their life. Therefore, such information is relevant, important, and should be included. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 14:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth[edit]

I'm giving up trying to correct the page - lazy journalists will just have to carry on quoting the wrong birth date in their articles and Wildhartlivie can carry on deleting correct information when presented to him/her (and no I don't think Pete is going to send you a copy of his birth certificate...).

For those that are interested, Pete was born on 7 February 1946. The Yahoo reference is wrong but Wildhartlivie informs me it is from a reliable source - presumably this means that it cannot be incorrect.

Ah well, Wikipedia 1 Accuracy 0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.224.186 (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please be so good as to not misrepresent what has gone on here. You changed the birthdate and cited your own personal knowledge as the source. Then you changed it and cited it to IMDb. You were informed that IMDb is not permissable as a source of biographical information because it (like your submission here) is user submitted and is therefore not considered a reliable source. I provided you with the link to WP:RS, which explains reliable sourcing to you and suggested if Mr. Postlethwaite would like to have his birthdate corrected that he contact WP:OTRS and submit verification. We can no longer take your word for proof than we can that of "lazy journalists'. The simple fact is that we cannot use IMDb and we cannot use your personal knowledge to source a change in birthdate. Your snarky attitude and commentary is not necessary nor does it solve your dilemma. Thanks for the sarcasm, though, we seldom get that from snarky editors who claim to know. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So was it 7 Feb or 16 Feb? The article currently has 7, the Telegraph obit has 16. Rothorpe (talk) 23:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We should find a few obituaries that agree on the same date and cite all of them. Jim Michael (talk) 04:16, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Son, William John Postlethwaite[edit]

There's very little on his son (or daughter), save the line "William John (born 1989), a drama student at LAMDA"

I believe his son is also an actor (from memory) and was in a Film4 production where he played the lead role as that of a runaway kid on the streets of London. Maybe it was a different Postlethwaite, or maybe it was Pete in this film, if so it doesn't seem to be listed in his Filmography. Maybe I've just my wires mixed up.

Does anyone have any more information about William John's career or current status? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yabbox (talk • contribs) 20:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being the child of a person that is Wikinotable does not necessarily make that person Wikinotable themselves. Whether or not WJP is notable enough to sustain an article on Wikipedia depends entirely on his own work, per the notability guideline WP:NACTOR. Mjroots (talk) 08:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

County of birth[edit]

He was born in Warrington in 1946, at which time it was in Lancashire; therefore this article should give Lancs as his county of birth. Since 1 April 1974 it has been in Cheshire. Jim Michael (talk) 12:24, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All the information both online and writen state that he was born in Cheshire [1] [2] [3] Bihco (talk) 18:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here, here, here - all account towards the contrary. Besides, from warrington council literature: "In 1974, various county boundary changes took Warrington administratively out of the county of Lancashire and placed it in the county of Cheshire", thus concluding that he was born at the time when Warrington was in Lancashire. To suggest he was born in Cheshire, implies an overuling of previous facts, which is inappropiate. If, for example, Warrington becomes apart of the new county of Monsterland in a new administrative county shake-up next year, I would therefore hope this page will be edited accordingly to read "born in Warrington, Monsterland".--94.168.21.175 (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Warrington is enough information. There is no need to include other redundant information in the article. Bjmullan (talk) 18:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus was born in a stable - if the stable was now a car park could we say that he was born in car park? LOL. Warrington, Lancashire(1946) Brakn (talk) 18:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus was not born in a stable (all the accounts state that there was no room at the inn), so that would be rewriting history Bihco (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We should not be rewriting history. Text should say something like "Poslethwaite was born in Warrington, which was then in Lancashire..." Mjroots (talk) 18:58, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death[edit]

He died of Cancer today 188.102.78.135 (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems appropriate... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Was it lung cancer? I know he was literally a chain smoker. (92.10.121.41 (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC))[reply]
It was testicular cancer. May he rest in peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.120.46 (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Where's the evidence of him having died of testicular cancer? He had it in 1990, had the affected testicle removed and recovered. We only know he died of cancer, not which type. Jim Michael (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"A month later the Government announced a change to its policy on coal"[edit]

The implication of this line is that the Government's change of policy was a result of Postlethwaite's intervention. Is there any evidence for this? If this is not the intended implication, why is this u-turn mentioned in the article rather than any of the many other u-turns of recent years? There appears to be a suggestion that the coal u-turn was connected in some way to Postlethwaite, otherwise why is it in the article at all?Hobson (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I came to this page to make much the same comment. Postlethwaite seems to have been a nice person but it doesn't seem credible that he had any significant influence on the outcome regarding the power station. The line undermines the article as a whole and has no place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 (talk) 21:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is perhaps mentioned in order to assure readers that he did not "turn in" his OBE after all. Though it may imply he played a greater role than he actually did, it's simply meant to round out the story. If it could be edited to something along the lines of "A month later the Government announced a change to its policy on coal, though there is no evidence of his individual activism playing a direct role in this outcome," that would be satisfactory.

Seminary[edit]

Pete Postlethwaite also entered seminary in london in the 1950's but left before becoming a priest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.248.215 (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

When the Watershed Media Centre in Bristol constructed its third cinema in 2004, it allowed its patrons to sponsor a chair. Pete Postlethwaite was the first person to do this, and there is now a chair in the cinema with a small plaque with his name on. The sources for this are included in the Watershed Media Centre article and I suggest that it's worth adding the fact into this article, but I'll leave that judgment to other editors. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Aeon Flux from films Pete is best known for.[edit]

I don't feel like Pete's role in Aeon Flux is worthy of being considered one of his best known works given that Aeon Flux is one of the worst films of the decade. I'm removing it from the list in the opening paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.253.41 (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pete's marriage and his daughter's birth date[edit]

Pete began his relationship with Jacqueline Morrish in 1987, but they were not legally married until 2003. Their daughter, Lily, was born in 1996, not 1992, as the current article states.

Page 132 of his autobiography, A Spectacle of Dust [1], mentions Lily's birth year. On this and the following page, Pete mentions being together with Jacqui for "many, many years" before he proposed. On this page and on the following page he mentions a commitment ceremony they had in Greece, where he mentions that his family wishes that they would have gotten married instead and worn a wedding ring. Page 133 also mentions his son Will asking him why he and Jacqui had not yet gotten married.

Among others, these sites mention the date of their eventual marriage as 2003:

[2] Find My Past co.uk

[3] Who's Dated Who

[4] Celebrity Weddings

[5] Famous Dead

Tracy58 (talk) 23:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)Tracy58[reply]

References

  1. ^ [http://www.amazon.com/A-Spectacle-Dust-The-Autobiography/dp/0297864939/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1362094686&sr=8-1 A Spectacle of Dust]
  2. ^ http:Find My Past co.uk
  3. ^ Who's Dated Who
  4. ^ Celebrity Wedding Archives
  5. ^ Famous Dead

Who is who?[edit]

He left behind two children, William John (born 1989), a drama student at LAMDA, and Lily Kathleen (born 1996), his wife and his mother.

Seriously, who is who? --87.212.167.60 (talk) 17:13, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Postlethwaite's Role in Sharpe Series.[edit]

The episodes of Sharpe that Mr. Postlethwaite appeared in are listed under the heading "Film", when maybe they should go under "Television." The entries on Sean Bean's page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bean for his role in the same episodes are listed under his "Television" heading instead of "Film". I'm not sure which is correct, but I feel they should match. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.68.75.215 (talk) 02:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Usual Suspects[edit]

Pete had a starring role in the movie the Usual Suspects. One of his greatest performances. Would somebody please add it? I tried but could not see a way to do it working through the codes. I don't know how to do that. I'm not an experience to Wikipedian editor. Blaquercia (talk) 07:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see it is mentioned further down. I suggest it be added at the top section of the page, as I think it is one of his most well recognized roles. Blaquercia (talk) 07:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Origins?[edit]

 Despite the Irish Independents statement that Pete Postlethwaite had no Irish ancestry, I believe his mother was of Irish descent. The surname
Lawless is found over much of Ireland. Pete's maternal grandmother was surnamed Lally another Irish name common in Galway and Mayo. The 
fact that they were Catholic would indicate some Irish connection as well.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.146.57.244 (talk) 16:59, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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