Talk:Odo the Great

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Probable corruption[edit]

How Yon de Gascogne is a probable corruption of Odo is way beyond me.

ICE77 (talk) 23:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Odo is a modern English representation of the medieval name Eudon, from which Yon is not as much a stretch. Anyhow, it's sourced. Agricolae (talk) 00:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. To somebody like me who does not know much about medieval English it's hard to connect the dots.

ICE77 (talk) 01:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Battle of Tours-Poitiers[edit]

Can somebody check whether the claim the the Battle of Tours-Poitiers occurred in 733 is true? All I have seen so far seems to point to 732, including the same entry for the battle.

ICE77 (talk) 01:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The date of 732 is from the Frankish sources, while 733 is from the Mozarabic Chronicle. Roger Collins, Arab Conquest, p. 91, argues for the latter, while Paul Fouracre, Age of Charles Martel, p. 87, is noncommittal. He points out that either dates works with other known data, the only contradiction is between the sources. I think this information was in the battle article once upon a time. Srnec (talk) 04:22, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is good information. Can you introduce it in the article to explain the difference in dating so it's clearer?

ICE77 (talk) 05:03, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I confirm the date is either 732 or 733, in the year 114 of the Islamic calendar as mentioned by Alessandro Barbero in this video in Italian on the battle of Tours-Poitiers.

ICE77 (talk) 04:14, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]