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Company Officers[edit]

Someone needs to add people like D.L. Morrison and C.E. Neal to the main article. Also, note that until 1969 the headquarters were in San Rafael, site of the present Whistlestop Wheels senior center.

Most expensive rail line in the United States?[edit]

I have requested a reference citation. I proposed a similar claim to the Northwestern Pacific division engineer in the late 1970s. He told me he couldn't support such a statement. He said at that time Southern Pacific was spending more money maintaining the causeway across the Great Salt Lake. He also speculated the Canadian Pacific line through the Fraser River canyon was more expensive to maintain than the Northwestern Pacific line through the Eel River canyon.Thewellman (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citation added. The comment about "most expensive" is easily findable with a google search in dozens of journals and newspapers. There's also a large article about it by Hank Sims in the North Coast Journal titled Going Nowhere.[1] Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1914 Completion of line through (Eel River Canyon) to Eureka and the Golden Spike Ceremony.[edit]

I am not sure how the article has gone this long without mention of all the activity and culmination of construction in October 1914, and the momentous occasion of driving the Golden Stake and the parties at Eureka and Willits. But surprise aside, here is a link to that happy event, complete with film: The Redwood Empire Route: Railroads in the Redwoods. Citation is needed, but I do not have time at the moment. Additionally, the organization of the article is "bouncy" in that it jumps around a lot in terms of chronology, an issue, among others, which needs to be addressed. I began a process to clean up some of the wording in the lead, but much more work is needed. Norcalal (talk) 20:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to the detailed MP listing?[edit]

The detailed list of MP's (including all tunnels) seems to have disappeared in the last 48 hrs. What happened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BDLiddicoa (talk • contribs) 18:59, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There were no edits whatsoever to the article between 8 April and 3 May, per the article's history page. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

San Francisco waterfront and connectivity with the Belt Railroad[edit]

Did this railroad have a presence on the San Francisco waterfront and connectivity with the Belt Railroad there? I've seen a map from the 1890's showing a "NW Pacific" barn at 900 Front street where the ABC Broadcast Center is located today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.203.20 (talk) 16:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC) Added section titleFettlemap (talk) 17:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1997 Storms[edit]

The article needs to mention the role the storms of 1997 played in the demise of the railroad. Extensive sections of the line through the Eel River Canyon were washed out and never replaced due to cost considerations. The line has not operated since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.243.150.63 (talk) 12:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant information[edit]

I have removed the following irrelevant text apparently added under the misimpression the Northwestern Pacific Railroad served an area considerably north of its actual location. The population figures for Tacoma, Washington, (which I have corrected to indicate 19th century rather than 20th century) are decades earlier than the Northwestern Pacific. This text might be appropriate for the Northern Pacific Railroad article.Thewellman (talk) 17:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

During the height of the railroad development and expansion, many immigrant groups, families, and single men moved to the Pacific Northwest^[1]. There was a large imbalanced ratio of men to women during the beginning of the 1900's. The growing rate of Tacoma Washington's population was massive. For example, In 1880 there was 1,098 residents in Tacoma and in 1889 there was 36,000, that is an increase rate of more than 3,000 percent.^[2]

References

^ Schwantes, Carlos. The Pacific Northwest: An Interpreted History. (Lincoln and London: University of Nebraska Press, 1989) 125-235
^ Schwantes, Carlos. The Pacific Northwest: An Interpreted History. (Lincoln and London: University of Nebraska Press, 1989) 125-235.

Speculation about reopening the line north of the SMART service area[edit]

While I don't disagree with the wording, I question if such forecasting is appropriate for this article -- especially without source citations. As a practical matter, it is difficult to foresee what the North Bay commute situation will be following this covid-19 workplace readjustment. Sonoma County may support reopening the line north to Cloverdale; but Mendocino County may have less financial incentive to tackle rebuilding through the flood and landslide plagued Russian River canyon to Ukiah. I question if the traffic potential from Fort Bragg and Willits would support operating costs over the steep grades from Ukiah to Willits. In the absence of objections, I propose to delete unsourced projections about future operations. Thewellman (talk) 22:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Map distance units[edit]

The infobox map seems to have distances in kilometers, since the line isn't close to 460 miles long. Is there a reason for that? Why shouldn't it be converted to miles to match the rest of the article? Jasper Deng (talk) 19:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Schwantes, Carlos. The Pacific Northwest: An Interpreted History. (Lincoln and London: University of Nebraska Press, 1989) 125-235

[2] Schwantes, Carlos. The Pacific Northwest: An Interpreted History. (Lincoln and London: University of Nebraska Press, 1989) 125-235.

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