Talk:None but the Lonely Heart (Tchaikovsky)

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NPOV[edit]

Took out line from the first sentence, which claimed that "None but the Lonely Heart "is Tchaikovsky's most famous song, and one of his most popular compositions." There is no possible way to quantify this, and as such it is OR.PacificBoy 00:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization - Goethe?[edit]

Should this be categorized under Category:Musical settings of poems by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, or is the connection too indirect? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 July 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved to None but the Lonely Heart. We've got a pretty clear consensus on how to capitalise, but no consensus on whether this article is the primary topic. If anyone feels strongly about that feel free to start a new RM that focuses solely on that issue. As a side note, if it is disambiguated it should probably be to None but the Lonely Heart (Tchaikovsky), that seems to be the consistent format used in Category:Compositions by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. Jenks24 (talk) 09:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

None but the lonely heart → None But the Lonely Heart – MOS:CT says the article name should be capitalised: None But the Lonely Heart --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2015 (UTC) Narky Blert (talk) 00:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But see also Talk:None but the Lonely Heart (film) where an opposite conclusion was reached (sigh). Narky Blert (talk) 00:19, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

<can of worms>It looks to me as if WP capitalisation conventions could be inconsistent between at least songs, albums, poems, stories, books, and movies.</can of worms> Narky Blert (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support adding (Tchaikovsky song) In ictu oculi (talk) 00:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And move None But the Lonely Heart (disambiguation) over the baseline None But the Lonely Heart. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move to None but the Lonely Heart or None but the Lonely Heart (Tchaikovsky song) or None but the Lonely Heart (Tchaikovsky composition): "Lonely Heart" should certainly be capitalized per MOS:CT, but MOS:CT actually says to use lowercase "but". I have just moved the dab page so that it also uses a lowercase "but". —BarrelProof (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(1) Agree with lowercase 'but' - my mistake.

(2) I think that the song is well enough known to be a primary article. If it is renamed, it should be to None but the Lonely Heart (song) - see WP:NCM#Articles not belonging to a series: common name and disambiguation. Narky Blert (talk) 12:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate Move per BarrelProof -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 07:33, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 31 August 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed after two weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 12:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

– The film whose title was based on Tchaikovsky piece is more viewed than but not much significant as the Tchaikovsky piece itself. Neither the film nor the piece is primary topic. The dabpage should occupy the base title. Umm... I wonder whether Talk:An American in Paris should be a precedent to this. As for the proposal, I might consider it a "classical music" per WP:NCM unless otherwise. George Ho (talk) 15:09, 31 August 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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