Talk:Nomination rules

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being "nominated" vs being "listed".[edit]

I have removed this sentence (which was added by Timrollpickering):

In some jurisdictions a candidate or party must not only be nominated but also has to pass separate rules in order to be listed on the ballot paper. In the United States, this is called ballot access.

I'm not sure what distinction it is trying to drawn between being "nominated" and being "listed". One might draw a distinction wherein being nominated is something that happens in a non-official, unregulated way, and being listed is the part that is regulated by law...

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For example, in the UK and Ireland, major parties have a local body in each constituency, which meets some time before an election to select the candidate(s) — an unregulated process held according to the party's own private rules. Then, once the election is called, the local party will fill in the necessary paperwork to ensure the selected candidate(s) are on the ballot paper on election day.

...but it is only this latter process that is the subject of "nomination rules" as defined in this article. The former process is instead covered by preselection. jnestorius^(talk) 15:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted this. US "ballot access" is a somewhat different thing and results in the bizarre arrangement whereby a person may be formally nominated with the relevant authorities to run in an election but does not automatically appear on the ballot paper and either has to jump through additional hurdles to get there or else run a write-in campaign. That's different from many (most?) jurisdictions whereby a correctly nominated candidate is automatically on the ballot paper. Timrollpickering 19:46, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Timrollpickering: We still have a problem...:

the first line of Ballot access is "Ballot access rules, called nomination rules outside the United States, ..."
the entire content of Nomination rules#Nomination rules in the United States is "Main article: Ballot access. Ballot access in the United States varies widely between the various states."

...so neither article explains the distinction that you are making. The only relevant point I could find in Wikipedia article-space is where write-in candidate says "Some jurisdictions require write-in candidates be registered as official candidates before the election". It doesn't say how one registers as a write-in candidate, which seems to me to be the only thing that falls under "nomination rules" but not under "ballot access". jnestorius^(talk) 23:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]