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2 distinct groups of islands[edit]

My world atlas shows 2 distinct groups of Novosibirskiye Ostrova (New Siberian Islands) - the group described here, and another group midway between these and Novoya Zemla. Are they be called East and West, or should they all be grouped together in this article? Bards 21:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is now resolved. Although my atlas shows the name "Novosibirskiye Ostrova" for both groups of islands, Wikipedia has already classified the western group as Severnaya Zemlya. I have therefore used that name for the category aswell. Bards 22:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dwarf Alder Shrubs[edit]

wow, I am truly suprised by reading that evidence of previous vegitaion was found 3 degrees farther North than previously ever discovered, this would kind of support my theory that the earth's axis has changed over time! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.46.224 (talk) 19:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to Makeyev et al. (2003), there is nothing at all significant about finding fossil Alnus spp.in the New Siberian islands. During the last 15,000 years, alder (Alnus fruticosa) occupied the New Siberian Islands for only a brief period of time, from 12,200 to 12,500 BP (radiocarbon), when the climate became increasingly humid with a moderated continental climate characterized by winter air temperatures warmer than before (Makeyev et al. (2003). This caused the existing glacial so-called "tundrasteppe" landscape to be replaced by shrub and dwarf-shrub birch species (Betula cf. Tortuosa, B. exilis), as well as willow (Salix spp.) and alder shrubs (Alnus frutocosa) as part of an underbrush birch tundra. This warming was part of the Bølling Oscillation (Interstadial), a rather typical period of warmer interstadial climate unrelated to any shifts in the Earth's axis. Active thermokarst erosion; formation of lakes and swamps; and the beginning of peat accumulations provide further evidence of slightly warmer climates during this period. The return to colder glacial climate at the end of the Bølling Oscillation (Interstadial) caused the alder and other shrubs to be replaced by sedge-Artemisia grass associations close in composition to the previous glacial ‘‘tundrasteppes’’. However, this period of glacial climate, which lasted until 10,000 BP (radiocarbon), was much milder (warmer) than the glacial climate before 12,500 BP (radiocarbon)(Makeyev et al. (2003). Paul H. (talk) 04:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reference cited:
Makeyev, V.M., D.P. Ponomareva, V.V. Pitulko, G.M. Chernova and D.V. Solovyeva, 2003, Vegetation and Climate of the New Siberian Islands for the past 15,000 Years. Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, vol. 35, no. 1, pp. 56-66.
Additional note: Andreev et al. (2004) dated the sediments containing Baron von Toll's alder wood to the last, Kazantsevo (Eemian), Interglacial Epoch about 114 to 130 thousand years ago. Quantitative pollen-based climate reconstruction made by Andreev et al. (2004) estimate that the mean July temperatures within the New Siberian Islands were 4–5°C higher than the present during the Eemian Interglacial. Given their age and association with what was only one of many interglacial epochs, it is unnecessary to invoke a shift of the Earth's axis to explain the presence of alder trees within the New Siberian Islands. It is interesting that neither Makeyev et al. (2003) nor Andreev et al. (2004) observed any of the 15-foot high alder trees reported by Baron von Toll during their detailed investigations. Paul H. (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
References Cited:
Andreev, A.A., G. Grosse, L. Schirrmeister, S.A. Kuzmina, E. Y. Novenko, A.A. Bobrov, P.E. Tarasov, B.P. Ilyashuk, T.V. Kuznetsova, M. Krbetschek, H. Meyer, and V.V. Kunitsky, 2004, Late Saalian and Eemian palaeoenvironmental history of the Bol’shoy Lyakhovsky Island (Laptev Sea region, Arctic Siberia). Boreas. vol. 33, pp. 319–348.
Makeyev et al. (2003) - see above.

Division of the Skaha Republic[edit]

Which ulus(sp?) or division of the Skaha Republic are the New Siberian Islands in? I feel as if the islands are included with Ust Yansky, Allaikhovsky, and/or Nizhnekolymsky. The best internet resources tell me nothing. Can someone help me out? Thanks.CharlesRobertCountofNesselrode 14:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, the New Siberian Islands are considered to be a natural reserve zone directly under jurisdiction of the Sakha Republic (i.e., their territory is not a part of any ulus). Unfortunately, I don't have any sources available at the moment to back that claim.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Are regions directly administered by the Republic given a special name? Is there any name for the political division that those islands are in that is more specific than 'Skaha Republic'? Also, what do you make of the US claim to three of the DeLong Islands?CharlesRobertCountofNesselrode 23:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Administrative structure of each Russian federal subject is that federal subject's internal matter. Usually, territories with special status have a name, but not in case with Sakha (yes, I find it strange, too). The law of the Sakha Republic "On Administrative and Territorial Structure" does not mention its island territories at all, unlike, say, Arkhangelsk Oblast, which administers Franz Josef Land, Novaya Zemlya, and Victoria Island in a similar fashion. I did a bit of research after having read your note above, and all pieces of Sakha's legislature seem to deal with the islands as a nature reserve administered directly by the republic. Also, no ulus Charter lists the islands as a territory in jurisdiction of any of the uluses.
As for the DeLong Islands claim, I'm afraid I can't offer you much insight as I am not very familiar with that topic.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Population??[edit]

There is no permanent population on these islands, since they are a part of a nature reserve.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 5, 2013; 13:17 (UTC)

In September 2014, the Russian Navy reestablished a Soviet base which had laid abandoned since 1993.[5]24.156.78.205 (talk) 02:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If there is a naval base there, there has to be some population, however small.24.156.78.205 (talk) 02:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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