Talk:New Philosophers

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nihilism[edit]

Nietzsche was certainly no Nihilist, and the beliefs of these New Philosophers sound more in line with Nietzsche than their opponents do. It sounds like the last sentence of the first paragraph was meant to be "As such their opponents consider their ideas as belonging to the same nihilistic [sic], antihumanistic tradition as Nietzsche and Heidegger." I know little of the New Philosophers, and won't make this change, someone who knows more than me should research this.

Nietzsche certainly was a nihilist according to his own standards. However, his positive attitude towards truth and recognition of (human) nature distinguishes him from mainstream nihilism. This elements the New Philosophers shared with Nietzsche. However, the phrase was based on Bernard-Henri Lévy's attack on Sartre, that he accused of ignoring humanism. I think you are right the word "nihilistic" has no place in this sentence. Rokus01 08:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs some serious work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottHagan (talkcontribs) 17:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rabelais?[edit]

""Master Thinkers" like [...] Rabelais had created the foundations for systems of oppression."

I've never read anything by him, but I thought Rabelais was a medieval/Renaissance jokester. I've never heard of anything like "Rabelais-ism" and have a hard time conceiving what "systems of oppression" could be attributed to him. TGGP (talk) 08:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have read him, and you are correct. Rabelais is used by the New Philosophers as an example of somebody who seeks to undermine "systems of oppression". I have deleted the reference.(ERIDU-DREAMING (talk) 02:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]