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Producers?[edit]

Who produced what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.218.9 (talk) 02:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Healer (single)[edit]

I believed this was deleted after someone added it. But "The Healer" is a single according to my source.

www.industrysoul.com/2008/03/07/erykah-badu-limited-edition-12-vinyl-the-healer/
www.wordpress.com/tag/erykah-badu-limited-edition-12-vinyl-the-healer/
www.cratekings.com/erykah-badu-the-healer-w-real-thang-colored-vinyl-giveaway/
www.discogs.com/release/1366552
www.smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=3990
www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=99073
www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=45537
www.accesshiphop.com/store/?itemid=15086
http://www.catapult.co.uk/products/Vinyl/Urban/The+Healer+%252F+Real+Thang

Also, Amerykah Promise was single in the UK.[1] Tarysky (talk) 14:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

flash web design — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quangbagoogle (talk • contribs) 02:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Genre[edit]

There's a big difference between "contains elements of" and "fall into". I don't think it's fare to file this record under anything but neo soul, a sub-genre of R&B. Reliable sources do not explicity say this is a jazz, electronic or funk record, what they say is the record is influenced by said genres. Netrat (talk) 17:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Flash web design — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quangbagoogle (talk • contribs) 02:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Gabriel Yuji (talk · contribs) 06:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is very good; I do, however, have some points you may consider:

Lead

~~The reference to the Associated Press isn't necessary as the lead should be an overview rather than giving specific (and undiscriminated) examples.~~
On other hand, I feel like it can be expanded (not necessary, though)

Background

~~"Plagued by a creative block and self-doubt," is phrased very close to the source, and I feel the "plagued" is uneeded; I'd suggest you to reword it~~
~~Link backing track~~

Writing and development

~~"Buddies" may sound too informal~~
~~You should replace "IMed" as you may avoid using jargons~~

Recording

~~You don't need to call "James Poyser" by his full name every time you cites him (Poyser is enough); the same is valid for other names~~
~~"Om'mas Keith of Sa-Ra said of Badu's role at their studio"; avoid repeatin "of"~~
~~"Sa-Ra member Shafiq Husayn was bestowed by Badu with the honor of being the only person allowed to write lyrics for her." too close to the source and very impartial ("the honor")~~
~~"creative flow" isn't a bit informal/impartial? "creativity" is better~~

Music

~~Commentaries should be in the past tense; "Alexander Billet of ZNet writes" => "Alexander Billet of ZNet wrote", "Music writer Nelson George describes" => "Music writer Nelson George described", etc~~
~~"unififed"~~

Lyrics and themes

~~austerity and improvisation are referenced by what sources? Now, I'd assume they are backed up to Slant and Pitchfork respectively, but I couldn't find it on the sources...~~

General

~~There's some WP:OVERLINK e.g. Slant Magazine, Allmusic, Chicago Tribune, etc~~
You've done too direct quotes; not necessarily an issue but sometimes it's just unnecessary... not all have an uniquess that a paraphrase wouldn't be able to convey
I've noted some sources e.g "Monarch", ""Beat Freaq Badu", "Earth, Sun, Moon" are used many, many times. I've noted, however, that they are multiple-page sources so I recommend to indicate which specifically page back up which specifically statement. It would make verification more easy to the reader. You can do it akin to this or using this template.

Sources

~~According to checklink the following sources have problems (are dead or not working):~~

--Gabriel Yuji (talk) 18:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Songs

*"Tracks 1-6" and "Tracks 7-11" should be "Tracks 1–6" and Tracks "7–11" (WP:NDASH)
~~You should wiklink the gods' names; Humdililah is probably Alhamdulillah, but since the source doesn't say it, probably it's better remove it (you can replace with Maat if you want to)~~
"It features multitracked trumpet by Roy Hargrove" seems a bit displaced where it's. You may try to gather it to the "Layered with..." (you can say it was layered with a "multitracked trumpet", can't you) or "in unison with a muted trumpet" (because of the trumpet?)
~~"deflty"~~
You should make clearer which references sources what... The closer source to "black-on-black crime" is PW but the statement is on Allmusic. I've already noted something similar regarding "austerity" and "improvisation" (I hope it's not a big problem but just some lapses)
~~"confinment"~~
~~"African Americans" - hyphen?~~
~~"indictes"~~
~~"Philadelphia Weekly's Craig D. Linsey describes" => " Philadelphia Weekly's Craig D. Linsey described"~~
~~"The closing track "Telephone"", "The closing track "Honey"" - 2 closing tracks?~~

Packaging and title

~~bar code should be linked on "broken chains, bar codes, drugs" instead of "a bar code bearing the alphanumeric" (or probably it doesn't even need a link as it is a common term)~~
~~It's probably right (just to have sure)... but is the correct to say "lecturing a headless audience" or "lecturing to a headless audience"?~~

Release and promotion

~~"That same day, a release party took place on February 26" - if it's that same day I guess it's clear that it's February 26~~
"New Amerykah Part One was released in European countries on February 29,[54] the United Kingdom on March 3" - hm, well, UK is an European country... You can try "in some European countries", "non-English-language European countries" (too confusing?), or to list them all (?)
You've removed the Australian release info because of a source is gone. It's ok. I do think, though, that it's a valuable info because 1) it's an English-language country, and it's the English-language Wikipedia 2) following you talk about a bonus track released on it
~~You say "Japanese and Australian editions contain the bonus track "Real Thang", but the source indicates UK too ("日本/UK/オーストラリア盤ボーナス・トラック")~~

Commercial performance

~~"It spen"~~

Critical reception

Slant Magazine should be italicized as a magazine

Discussion

For now, that's all. I've not reviewed from "Songs" onwards, though. I'll do it as soon as possible. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 06:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed all the issues brought up above in this edit. Let me know if I missed/overlooked anything, Gabriel Yuji. Dan56 (talk) 19:58, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're quick, @Dan56:! I'll finish it soon. Hm, regarding overlinking... I hope you didn't understand that you need to remove the external links I've mentioned (I see you've removed some critics from Slant, Allmusic, and CT). I'm talking about this: "Generally, a [internal] link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:24, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I understood; the critics I removed was part of removing the overquoting issue. Dan56 (talk) 21:04, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added more stuff, @Dan56:. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 21:52, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revision + response. Dan56 (talk) 23:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay now. I've passed it. It would be good to have info on Australian release (I'd say tha's almost vital) for a FAN (I'd say this article has full potential). Nice job! It's a very interesting article that a very interesting album deserves! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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