Talk:Namira Salim/Archive 1

Archive 1

Flown in space?

Dubious to say the least. No body by the name of the subject of this article has flown in space, and certainly not in 2009. This fluff piece is about to be put up for AFD, since she has not flown in space like the article alleges. -MBK₀₀₄ 06:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain being shortlisted as a space tourist on a suborbital spacecraft yet to begin operations does not count as being an astronaut... Colds7ream (talk) 10:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, this was brought up at the deletion discussion but as I noted there little has been seriousy changed with regards to misleading content. Even the Timothy Peake article points out he is an astronaut candidate. ChiZeroOne (talk) 12:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problem

This article was deleted as a copyright problem of [1] created by the banned sockpuppet of a known copyright infringer. at the age of fourteen, she got her first telescope. At sixteen, she joined "Amastro Pak," the first formal astronomy society of Pakistan. Her interest in space continued through her university years. For several years, she lived in Dubai. There she learned flying under her mentor David McNaughton, who was one of the first people to visit space.

At the age of fourteen, Namira got her first telescope. At 16, she joined "Amastro Pak," the first astronomy society of Pakistan. Her interest in space continued through her university years. For the last twenty five years, Namira has been staying in Dubai. There she learned flying under David Mc Naughton, who was one of the first people to visit space. David was Namira's mentor.

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This article was listed for copyright review at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2010 October 29. This article was previously deleted as a violation of our copyright policies by the sockpuppet of a known serial copyright infringer (User:Marduking), and it has been recreated as a violation of our copyright policies. For example, the article contains the following:

at the age of fourteen, she got her first telescope. At sixteen, she joined "Amastro Pak," the first formal astronomy society of Pakistan. Her interest in space continued through her university years. For several years, she lived in Dubai. There she learned flying under her mentor David McNaughton, who was one of the first people to visit space.

The source says:

At the age of fourteen, Namira got her first telescope. At 16, she joined "Amastro Pak," the first astronomy society of Pakistan. Her interest in space continued through her university years. For the last twenty five years, Namira has been staying in Dubai. There she learned flying under David Mc Naughton, who was one of the first people to visit space.

The article contains the following:

Her art objects have been exhibited as supported events to the United Nations General Assembly in 2002, at UNESCO's Executive Board in the year 2000 and at SAARC Summit Pakistan in 2004. Her collectibles are created under a private label...In return, Salim presented Gillani with a unique porcelain lamp designed by her, bearing a sculpted portrait of Bhutto.

This source says:

Her innovative art objects have been exhibited as supported events to the United Nations General Assembly in 2002, at UNESCO's Executive Board in the year 2000 and at SAARC Summit Pakistan in 2004. Her collectibles are created under her private label.... She presented the Prime Minister with a unique porcelain lamp designed by her, bearing a sculpted portrait of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto Shaheed.

Given identifiable copying and close paraphrasing from multiple sources, the article needs to be rewritten. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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David McNaughton - correction

I am David McNaughton, but I did not teach Namira to fly (I cannot even fly myself), nor have I ever been out into space (nothing higher than a normal passenger aircraft, in fact!) But I wish her well - and in particular, all the very best for her future venture into space.

I did, however, know Namira in Dubai, and maintained e-mail and fax contact after she moved to Monaco. I acted as her astronomical consultant for many years - which included providing her with star diagrams for plaques which she made for various people. DLMcN (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Nationality and residence

Salim is a (part-time) resident of the city-state of Monaco. Although a significant number of reliable sources describe her as currently living in "the south of France" or "Southern France" (where Monaco could informally be described as being located) please note that Monaco is an independent country, and not part of France; she is neither French nor a resident of France. Please don't describe her as such, or add the article to any "French people" categories, thanks.

I've changed the lead sentence to say "Namira Salim (Urdu: نمیرا سلیم) born in Karachi, is a Pakistani explorer and artist based in Monaco and Dubai." I think this is the most accurate. She was born and raised in Karachi before going to college in the US. She describes herself as Pakistani (see the citations) as do many reliable sources. MOS:ETHNICITY says that we "should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable" and "this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident". She is a citizen and national of Pakistan, and a permanent resident of Monaco, splitting her time between there and Dubai (see the citations). This is also relevant to her notability as honorary consul of Pakistan to Monaco, and to her being commonly described by reliable sources as "the first Pakistani astronaut". --IamNotU (talk) 14:47, 19 May 2019 (UTC)