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Country Coaches[edit]

Some information which has been received still requires confirmation while it also appears that some of the information on the main pages was already out of date previously From 1/7/2014 - no formal confirmation, No mention of Greyhound in existing list. Ogdens Coaches Pty.Ltd,Mudgee. Lithgow-Coonabarabran-Baradine. Contract started 1/7/14.Formerly Greyhound Australia Pty.Ltd,

Confirmed so far are from 1/1/2015

L.C.Dysons Bus Services Pty.Ltd,Bundoora. -Cootamundra-Bathurst.Cootamundra-Dubbo.Currently Ogdens. -Cootamundra-Tumbarumba.Wagga-Tumbarumba.Currently Makehams. -Wagga-Griffith.Currently Makehams.

Kmet Transport Services Pty.Ltd,t/a Roadcoach,Moss Vale. -Cootamundra-Queanbeyan.Currently Makehams.

Loaders Coaches Pty.Ltd,Grenfell.Retained. These are still shown in the main page as being operated by Australia Wide Coaches -Bathurst-Grenfell. -Lithgow-Grenfell.

Port Stephens Coaches Pty.Ltd,Anna Bay.Retained. -Newcastle-Forster-Taree.

G & J Purtill Pty.Ltd,Moama.Not Purtill Bros.Nominees Pty.Ltd,Deniliquin.All retained. -Cootamundra-Condoblin. -Cootamundra-Mildura. -Wagga-Echuca-Albury-

Still need formal confirmation - these are not included in the references. Swan Hill Bus Lines Pty.Ltd,Swan Hill. An unconfirmed report suggests Ogdens have lost all their contracts based out of Dubbo. So wit appears that at least these contracts have changed hands to Swan Hill. -Coolabah-Brewarrina. -Dubbo-Bourke. -Dubbo-Broken Hill. -Dubbo-Lightning Ridge. -Lithgow-Dubbo-Nyngan.

Nowra Coaches Pty.Ltd,South Nowra. Not not 100 % confirmed but there is enough evidence to say that -Bundanoon-Moss Vale-Wollongong.Currently Kmet Transport Services Pty.Ltd,t/a Roadcoach.

From the references now quoted in the main page Lithgow to Grenfell return service, operated by Loaders Coaches. Bathurst to Grenfell return service, operated by Loaders Coaches. Mildura to Cootamundra return service, operated by G & J Purtills. Dubbo to Cootamundra return service, operated by L C Dysons Ptd Ltd. Condobolin to Cootamundra return service, operated by G & J Purtills. Bathurst to Cootamundra return service, operated by L C Dysons Pty Ltd. Queanbeyan to Cootamundra return service, operated by Roadcoach. Tumbarumba to Cootamundra return service, operated by L C Dysons Pty Ltd.

• Echuca to Wagga Wagga return service, operated by G & J Purtills • Griffith to Wagga Wagga return service, operated by L C Dysons Pty Ltd • Tumbarumba to Wagga Wagga return service, operated by L C Dysons Pty Ltd

There is one coach service operating to and from the Manning and Myall Lakes region and this contract has been awarded to Port Stephens Coaches. Fleet Lists (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest the table be left intact in its pre-change state until such time as all the operators can be ascertained, a half complete table is of little value. Mo7838 (talk) 05:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A further reference which may be useful to reconstruct the table at some later stage. ^[1]

^ Symes earns state contract for rail transport The Inverell Times 7 January 2015

Fleet Lists (talk) 05:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

North West Region or North Western Region[edit]

Mo7838 As I am in the process of creating an entry for the North West(ern) region in the new template I noticed that this article refers to North Western Region but the NSW Trainlink website and the timetable now both refer to North West region. I suspect this article should be changed to North West region.Fleet Lists (talk) 06:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC) I think I have resolved what the difference is between the two.Fleet Lists (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brand name or train operator?[edit]

Re this edit, London Overground is primarily a railway network hence the first sentence reflects this. It is also the brand under which the service is operated. LOROL is the contractor that operates services on the network, so quite distinct. Likewise Keolis Downer is the contractor that operates the Yarra Trams network that existed before, and will continue after KD's tenure as operator.

NSW TrainLink is the name under which the legal entity NSW Trains trades,[1] hence that is the name of the article. Yes NSW TrainLink is a brand name, but the article is primarily about the operator and hence the lead should reflect. We could have separate articles for NSW TrainLink the brand, and NSW Trains the operator, but there is probably not sufficient difference to justify. Virgin Trains is the brand name of West Coast Trains Ltd, yet that article doesn't have the confusing lead this article has.

First sentence currently states "NSW TrainLink is an Australian brand...", then the second states "NSW TrainLink services operate throughout New South Wales...". A brand can't operate services. Bottom line, is that the trading and legal names are different is a minor technicality not really notable enough for the lead. 210.18.211.190 (talk) 04:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Symes earns state contract for rail transport The Inverell Times 7 January 2015

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