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Evidence of racism[edit]

This video on Youtube highlights the racism inherent in the "Darkie Day" traditions, inculding a song with the words; "He's gone where the good n*gg*rs go", is there a place for a link to it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk4v11U4tQ

Serpren (talk) 02:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I feel it might also be interesting to mention/add a link to Wren's Day which is celebrated in Many parts of Ireland (chiefly Dingle, Co. Kerry) on December 26 and which in all likelihood shares the same origins as Mummer's Day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.233.137 (talk) 10:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are two aspects to this, traditional folk festivals from an age before sensitivity over words became so all pervasive, and the desire to censor so widespread. Black face is not racist but disguise, with a long tradition in many British cultural activities. More modern revivals have not always stuck with tradition, or been ignorant of it, and have added later cultural glosses. Then its revival in such places as the US and Canada has added another layer, and then along come political correctness and it's fascistic impulse to destroy the past as inseemly, incorrect, embarrassing for genteel folk, and seized on by activists with an agenda as evidence of racism, because they lack the knowledge of history and culture to appreciate it isn't. Some want to censor and change everything to satisfy their virtue signalling over racism and social justice, when Morris, Mummers, Mollie and Rebekahs and all the other [British] folk traditions are not the concern of any but us, the British. If it's not liked, ignore it, don't continue it in Canada or America. Let it go. Just stop applying present-day obsessions over micro-aggressions and sensitivities over words. An encyclopedia shouldn't be a vehicle for a politically correct redrawing of history. The current hysteria over racism fueled by social media will pass, and hopefully common sense will prevail. PetePassword (talk) 13:57, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The same problem has now happened to you yourself, though in reverse, as it were; the current so-called "hysteria" over racism is entirely justified in its context.

The one and only job of historians, regardless of their time or place, is to redraw history based on their own attitudes and biases. The "hysteria" you say you are witnessing *is* common sense; common sense is nothing but the prevailing conventional wisdom, and conventional wisdom is always changing. TooManyFingers (talk) 22:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not just a cornish tradition.[edit]

I live in Dorset and we have a mummer's day tradition. This is not just specific to Cornwall. 2A00:23C6:E083:C801:C19:7B16:AD28:E968 (talk) 18:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]