Talk:Movie production incentives in the United States

Useful links

Possible Source Articles

• WBUR: At Oscar time we ask: Is the Mass movie boom over?
• AP: State tax credits help cover stars' pay
• Globe Op-Ed: Lights. Camera. Stop the film subsidies action.
• Globe: Taking sides on the Mass. film tax credit
• Commonwealth Mag: Film spending flows mostly out of state
• Commonwealth Mag: MA. film business doing a fade?
• Commonwealth Mag: Decision time for film tax credit
• Commonwealth Mag: Would you fund movies or environmental programs?
• Commonwealth Mag Op-ed: Stop bay state subsidies for Hollywood moguls.
• Commonwealth Mag: Patrick seeks cap on film tax credit
• Commonwealth Mag: Working in the dark - advocating for transparency in tax credit policies
• MA Dept. of Revenue: A Report on the Massachusetts Film Industry Tax Incentives
• MBPC: Film Industry Tax Credit Brief
• DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: The Economic and Fiscal Impacts of Connecticut’s Film Tax Credit
• Cast and Crew: Production Incentives by State Flixter (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
• Clearwater Patch: Movie Induced Tourism - Dolphin Tale Could Net 5 Billion for Clearwater, Florida Flixter (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Pages

• Pennsylvania Film Production Tax Credit
• Plymouth Rock Studios
• Film industry in Connecticut
• North Carolina Film Office
• Film_finance#Tax_schemes

Notes and such

Commonwealth Magazine is a publication of MassInc, a nonpartisan, independent public policy research organization.
MBPC is the Massachusetts Budget & Policy Center, an independent think tank. They lean left overall.

The production for Dolphin Tale received 5 million dollars from Florida's Transferable Tax Credit in 2010. Flixter (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

References

Student comments

Prem's Comments

Great article! It went over the details of movie production incentives by state, as well as the advantages and disadvantages of these attempts to promote in-state movie production.

My recommendations include:

• if there is information that, in some way, shows the amount of runaway production and if this has decreased as the amount of in-state movie production incentives have increased, it might be worthwhile to add it
• if there is information that relates the types of in-state movie production incentives to amounts of generated revenue (or a multiplier), it might be useful to see which types are the most productive

Overall, the article reads and flows very well! --pdurairaj1081 (talk) 16:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Your suggestions are good, and as we keep updating the article we'll work on filling in some of those blanks. Dglasser13 (talk) 02:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Lorin's Comments

Nice work! I feel like I've been hearing a lot of debate over this topic lately so it's great to learn some of the facts around it. Your layout is very logical and easy to navigate.

I don't know whether this might be outside the scope of your project, but one thing that sparked my curiosity was whether most states see an overall financial benefit from their existing policies in this area. Would it be at all possible to create a table where you show rough figures for this? It seems tough since quantifying things like small business growth, etc. can be problematic... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lorink (talk • contribs) 14:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. We've added some figures that states have reported in terms of costs and benefits. I don't know if a table would make the most sense, because different states use different methods for calculating the figures, making direct comparison difficult. Dglasser13 (talk) 15:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

CSR Comments

I loved your article. You framed the issues surrounding production incentives nicely using a historical background and describing various kinds of incentives. Your chart is awesome. If I was trying to figure out where to shoot a movie I would hope I stumbled across your wikipedia page. I only had one comment. You mention some different positions regarding production incentives in your introduction: "Proponents of these programs..." "Others argue..." Had you considered adding citations for these positions? I only ask because it seems you could use the same citations from other places in your article and it would definitely add credibility. Seriously though, fantastic job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearsaresoft (talk • contribs) 05:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. We left citations out of the intro per consensus at WP:LEADCITE. The idea as I understand it is that as long as the facts in the lede are supported in the body of the article, there's no need for duplicate citations. If you see anything in there that isn't supported down below, let us know and we can rectify it. Thanks! Dglasser13 (talk) 15:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Campus Ambassador comments

Hi all, very good work on this article so far! I have just a few items of feedback to help you improve it further:

• The article title shouldn't be repeated in section titles, for example instead of "History of incentives" it should be just "History".
• I'd put the big state-by-state table closer to the bottom, since it's easy for readers to miss text that's after such a big table.
• The lists in the "Types of incentives" and "Arguments against incentives" sections should use bullet points.

Also, the professor wants you to solicit feedback from other Wikipedians; the best way to do this is to leave a note on a relevant WikiProject's talk page. I'd suggest Wikipedia:WikiProject Film and Wikipedia:WikiProject Taxation. Keep up the good work! Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 23:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I've done the following:

• I made the table collapsible so that it doesn't take up so much room.
• I put the article up for feedback on the taxation project and the general peer review list.
• I made the changes to bullets, and I'll go ahead and fix the header titles.

Let us know if you have any other suggestions. Thanks! Dglasser13 (talk) 01:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Response from Request for Feedback volunteer

Answer duplicated from Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 April 17

Overall looks pretty solid, though your cats were slightly off. Category:Films is for the actual films themselves, whereas Category:Film is about the field in general. Production funding seems like it would go in Category:Film making, so I moved it there, though maybe it could be further categorised if there is any cat with other articles about film finance. I also added Category:Subsidies.

On the Talk page I added WP:WikiProject Film. By the way, have you dropped into their WikiProject to say hello and show them your page? You might get some even better technical feedback there. The RfF page is more for technical help with formatting, structure, referencing, etc., but I think I got you a few little tweaks on that angle.

One other suggestion: try using a variety of search engines to see if you can find any mention on WP of a film being "incentivised", and then wikilink that portion to your article to better tie-in the article and avoid an "orphan" tag. For example, given an article about film "XYZ" you could find a sentence and wikify it thusly: "Acme productions received over $1 million in movie production incentives from the state of Wyoming". Note the blue term directs to your page. Just one way to make sure that plenty of pages lead to your page. You could even search news websites for mention that a given film received incentives, and then go add a sentence about it (with link to your article) into that movie's article. I just reckoned your professor might give you extra points if the "What links here?" button shows plenty of roads leading to your page. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! These are really helpful comments. We'll spend some time building referring links. I did look at the WP:WikiProject Film page, but their section on peer reviews seems to just point to the general WP peer review process that you saw. I can look again to post a note and ask for feedback. Thanks again for taking the time to help us out. Dglasser13 (talk) 19:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

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