Talk:Mitsubishi 4B1 engine

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Vencer sarthe[edit]

Was the 4b11t *actually* used in the vencer? I can't find anything to support this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.124.200.236 (talk) 08:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User disagreement[edit]

There's no such thing as "Mitsubishi GEMA engine." This entry should be deleted and the new L4 engines should be moved to the general Mitsubishi gasoline engine category.

GEMA stands for Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance and it's the factory that manufactures the "World Engine" in Michigan. It is operated by Chrysler Corporation. It is basically owned by Chrylsler and Mitsubishi has a small unknown equity stake in the venture.

The enigne factory in japan is owned and operated by Mitsubishi Corporation and has got NOTHING to do with GEMA.

The engine itself is Mitsubishi-modified version of Hyundai's Theta engine and Hyundai and Chrysler had no hand in their own application of the base Theta design. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.22.157 (talk • contribs) 01:06, September 23, 2006.

Verifiable sources disagree with you.[1][2] --DeLarge 15:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wrong, i agree with delarge --193.77.134.70 16:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page move?[edit]

Since everything on this page is a 4Bxx, I'm thinking it would be better to move the content of this page to Mitsubishi 4B engine, which is currently a redirect. It'd match all the other pages in the template/category. Also, if MMC plays its cards right and the new 4B11T is a worthy successor to the 4G63T in the current Evo, then engine geeks of the future will be searching for the code, not the "GEMA" connection. --DeLarge 15:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i agree :) --193.77.134.70 16:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend renaming to 4b1x[edit]

why? even mitsubishi is calling the engine family 4b1 type!!

http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/pressrelease/e/motorshow/detail1434.html "the 4B1-type 4-cylinder 2.4-liter unit that powers the Japanese Outlander launched in "

"6B3 engine for the “Outlander” ..."

download this delarge http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/environment/report/e/pdf/2006/2006e_06.pdf page 12, bottom right corner the 1.1 3cylinder that we classified as 3b10 is actually 3A9 (3A90) you see the part about 4b1x family (1.8!!, 2.0, and 2,4 official refferences) also 6b article should be renamed to 6B3X!!! also on the same page of the "Environmental Management Report 2006"!

all these link should be included in 4b and 6b article (or should i say 4B1x and 6B3x :) ) edit forgot this http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/pressrelease/e/corporate/detail889.html (i added it to 4b and gema articles but fix it please) cheers --195.210.209.242 15:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aieee... this complicates things. Specifically, they're referring to the "4B1-type", and the "6G7-type". I've a sneaking suspicion that the 4B1x format, as seen at the Autospeed review, actually started here and was copied by the journalist. So, should the page be called one of the options below?

Mitsubishi 4B engine (current format)
Mitsubishi 4B1x engine ("our" format, self created?)
Mitsubishi 4B1 engine (MMC format)
Mitsubishi 4B1-type engine (MMC format)

I think one of the last two would be the most accurate, although I'd need to dig around more official pages and see what the most common style is, rather than just go with this one instance. The trouble is that pretty much every MMC engine page will probably need moved to match it as a result. Also, moving to Mitsubishi 4B1x engine has a downside: I'd need to take it to WP:Requested moves for admin assistance.

As a postscript, we have a slight complication. The Mitsubishi 6G engine was referred to in those exact terms by the same Michael Knowling who wrote the other AutoSpeed articles.[3] Unless there's consistency by Mitsubishi, there may not even be a "correct" style at this rate. --DeLarge 21:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, where did the "3B10" code come from? I'm fairly confident that I didn't just make it up; I'll dig out some diffs from last year and see if I can get to the bottom of this. However, the 3A9-type makes sense, since the bore/stroke is identical to the 1.5L 4A91 in the Colt. --DeLarge 21:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

mitsubishi uses this one

Mitsubishi 4B1-type engine (MMC format)

that means that you need to rename or move all other engine families, ALOT of work, i dont know where you came across 3B10 code?, next month mmc will release the anual report for fiscal year 2006, and all other technical papers, should clear some things...--MitsuFreak 09:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(indent reset) Mitsubishi seems to use both formats; see the photo captions (p.40) in the 2006 Environment Report .pdf you linked to. If next month's technical papers will clarify things, maybe hold off renaming everything until then? --DeLarge 16:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i suggest leaving engine family name as it is, 4B1x, 4G1x....., just rename the engine families that you havent classified as ???x, like 6B family to 6B3x, 6A family to 6A1x, 4B to 4B1x..... and so on, you get the point, we should be putting more effort in getting MMC page to "featured article status", i'm more interested in creating mitsubishi technologies, like ACD, S-AWC, and other toys, for me mitsubishi is all about performance and tech stuff .... cheers --MitsuFreak 16:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

4b12[edit]

Application

2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart
2004 Mitsubishi Grandis

afaik these 2 didn't habe 4b12 only the predecessor 4G69 - if no complaints i will delete these 2 wrong entries...

--Galantea0 (talk) 23:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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bore pitch[edit]

bore pitch is 96 mm --Wolle1303 (talk) 21:39, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]