Talk:Mill Creek (Lake Erie)

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Did you know... that after the Mill Creek flooded Erie Pennsylvania in 1915, it was diverted to a tube that is large enough for a pickup truck to drive through?

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Mini-review[edit]

This looks promising. Interesting stream and tube. Nice photos.

Thanks! I also just put up three more photos on Commons. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possibilities for expansion (and typical of stream articles that are broad in coverage) include geology, climate, watershed, flora and fauna (including fish, amphibians, and smaller life-forms), pollution, parks and recreation. The watershed sections usually include something about population, land use, high points and low points, bordering watersheds, and jurisdictions (city, county, state, national). The climate section would probably be identical to the Erie, Pennsylvania, climate section. Expanding the text would also make room for more images (maybe historic flood scene, mouth on the lake, creek near flood stage, typical surrounds).

Thanks for ideas. I'll have to see what I can dig up the next time I'm back there. Now that I think about, there is a postcard showing the flood damage already in use in the History of Erie article. I did attempt a photo of the creek's mouth, but it didn't come out (a rush job; no place to park and didn't want stay stopped for long in case a dump truck from the nearby sand and gravel plant came whizzing around the bend). Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A watershed map is always a possibility if you can find sources for the shape. I learned from Ruhrfisch how to use Census maps as base maps, but other editors use GIS software and data. You mentioned USGS data and SVGs rather than PNGs. All good. I have not used GIS software or created an SVG file, so I can't help with those. I wouldn't mind learning, though, if you have tips to share.

I have a map in the works now, but still have to draw/add all peripheral streams. You are welcome to try to learn (Inkscape is a good [free] vector editing program). One tip that seems to work for me is to look at vector images already completed, so you can see how it was drawn. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Finetooth (talk) 21:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can find stream source elevations by plugging GNIS source coordinates into the Google Earth (GE) search engine and waiting for GE to find the target. The elevation number appears along the bottom center of the display (not the same as the "eye altitude" number on the right).

Intriguing concept...but how would one cite that? Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My boilerplate, stuck between ref tags, is "Source elevation derived from Google Earth search using Geographic Names Information System (GNIS) source coordinates." Finetooth (talk) 21:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added the elevation. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 01:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Situated about a 1 mile (1.6 km) upstream of the Tube is a drift catcher used to stop large debris from reaching the tube." - In this sentence "tube" appears with a capital T in one place and a small t in another. I'd suggest small t throughout the article except in the full formal name, Mill Creek Tube. I fixed a couple of other minor proofing errors, but it's probably premature to do a full c/e sweep.

I usually see it referred to with the capital, but am fine with using lower-case. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dropped the capitals in the prose. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 01:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hope this helps. Holler if I can be of further help. Finetooth (talk) 18:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for quick review, it's nice to know I'm on right track :-) Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 20:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great work![edit]

A really nice article, and very thorough too! All is One (talk) 21:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words! Writing about a creek is a somewhat new experience, having only done mostly historic sites / structures before. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 01:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TV says completed[edit]

http://www.wsee.tv/local_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1283443817&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&action=results&poll_ident=13

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