Talk:Maximilien de Béthune, Duke of Sully

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A Religion Issue[edit]

Could someone please clarify Sully's religious beliefs? The opening synopsis says that he was a staunch Catholic, the inside says that he was brought up a Protestant, and the ending summary says that he was hated by most Roman Catholics because he was a Protestant. Help? Jason947 00:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was a Huguenot (French protestant). I can cite Robert Briggs' Early Modern France 1560-1715 to back me up on this. --86.136.45.199 19:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Accomplishments[edit]

While there might not be a need for a seperate criticisms section there seems to be a lot of negative claims about his personality in the accomplishments section, I think it would be good to get reliable sources for claims about someone's personality rather than their actions. --I (talk) 04:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ministry[edit]

The very first entry in the inset at top says the subject was Chief Minister of France. Then the article proceeds, cheerfully and unbelievably, not to mention or treat the fact.

It's the kind of incompetence for which Wikipedia is world famous, and why historians turn, running & screaming, from it.

With a newly written article, you wouldn't be getting this criticism from me. With an article that's been online for 17 years, you do.

Jimlue (talk) 02:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Military power would only be needed towards Russia and the Ottoman Empire.[edit]

'Military power would only be needed towards Russia and the Ottoman Empire.'

In the actual work, only the Ottoman Empire / Turks are referred to (as the targets of a crusade), not the Muscovites. clearly the old international Christian ideal of unity still existed. This seems like an attempt to draw overly close parallels between sully's 'Great Design' and certain modern conceptions of the nature of the European union and its relations to other states/powers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.227.195 (talk) 12:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]