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The True Meaning of the Lord of Heaven was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 15 December 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Matteo Ricci. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Peter Parker[edit]

I've added Peter Parker to the list of Protestant Missionaries and intend to write an article on him this weekend. Peter Parker is a legitimate Protestant Missionary to China in the mid-1800's. Please do not revert as vandalism! This is not Spiderman ;-) Balloonman 16:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An article on Peter Parker had already been created. Balloonman 01:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

neutrality?[edit]

"He refused to explain the Catholic faith as something foreign or new, instead, he confirmed that the Chinese culture and people always believed in God, and that Christianity is simply the most perfect manifestation of their faith. Thus the Chinese Lord of Heaven is identical with Jesus Christ."

I question the neutrality of this part of the article because of the use of the term "confirm" and the conclusion that the Shang-di *is* Jesus Christ. The article seems to assert that these are the correct conclusions and not merely report on what Ricci taught.

Furthermore, I think that "confirmed" is inaccurate because I am unaware that anyone prior to Ricci had thought the Chinese had ever worshipped the Judeo-Christian god. There needs to be a previous source of this idea for Ricci to have confirmed it. Besides, how exactly does one confirm that any people "always believed in God?" Dantelives (talk) 05:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Kaifeng Jews believed Shang-Di to be Yaweh and not Jesus, so the comment doesn't really cover the gambit of people who practiced monotheism in China. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 05:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matteo Ricci's Memory Palace[edit]

It's interesting that there's no comment made about Ricci and his memory palace. As I understand it, it was quite prolific. And it provided the basis for the Hannibal Lecter's memory palace in Thomas Harris' 1999 book "Hannibal".Claysian (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone clarify?[edit]

The current text reads "No Christian missionary had attempted seriously to learn the Chinese language until 1579 (three years before Ricci's arrival),"

What is "seriously" supposed to modify? Also it may help to say which Chinese languages. 138.88.18.245 (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

infobox[edit]

The infobox should probably be converted to that of a Christian saint. It is something else right now and I couldn't figure out how to easily convert it. natemup (talk) 05:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]