Talk:Mary Gardiner Horsford

A fact from Mary Gardiner Horsford appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 January 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after Mary Gardiner Horsford died, her husband married her sister Phoebe?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 22:12, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Mary Gardiner Horsford was promoted as "one of our sweetest American poetesses" by Godey's Lady's Book? Source: "From J. C. Derby, New York:—INDIAN LEGENDS AND OTHER POEMS. By Mary Gardiner Horsford". Godey's Lady's Book. Vol. 52, no. 4. Philadelphia: Louis A. Godey. April 1856.
- ALT1: ... that the North American Review claimed that Mary Gardiner Horsford's untimely death lent her poetry "a new and melancholy significance"? Source: "Indian Legends and Other Poems. By Mary Gardiner Horsford". The North American Review. Vol. 82, no. 170. January 1856. JSTOR 25104682.
- ALT2: ... that some of Mary Gardiner Horsford's poems have been criticized for repeating "familiar stereotypes, both horrific and romantic" in tacit approval of manifest destiny? Source: Wadsworth, Sarah; Wiegand, Wayne A. (2012). Right Here I See My Own Books: The Woman's Building Library at the World's Columbian Exposition. Amherst and Boston: University of Massachusetts Press. p. 163. ISBN 978-1-55849-928-7.
- ALT3: ... that after Mary Gardiner Horsford died, her husband married her sister Phoebe? Source: Memorial Biographies of the New England Historic Genealogical Society. Vol. IX. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society. 1908. p. 105.; "Horsford, Cornelia". The Biographical Cyclopaedia of American Women. New York: The Halvord Publishing Company. 1924. p. 169.
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Created by RexSueciae (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing... ~hue sat lum 04:28, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems: - The quotation from the source says "volume of pearls from the heart-fountain of one of our sweetest American poetesses" -- the article should either use the full quote or use ... in place of the omitted portion (this doesn't affect the quote in the hook, however).

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Everything checks out, except for one small quibble with a quote. I think ALT2 and ALT3 are the most interesting of the hooks. ~hue sat lum 02:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@HueSatLum: good eye! Fixed the quote in the article, thanks for letting me know. I don't have strong opinions on hooks but concur with your suggestion. RexSueciae (talk) 02:59, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, then. ~hue sat lum 04:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Birth (and death) dates[edit]

Hi User:HapHaxion -- I'm not so sure that she was born on the 27th vs the 26th -- her profile at RPI's catalog of manuscripts indicates that she was born on the 26th (a claim repeated on AllPoetry.com which copies the RPI info wholesale). Thing is, there aren't many reliable sources out there that specifically describe her birth date. RPI's page is the only thing I can find (and as a reputable university which maintains a collection of letters and whatnot from her family, I'd think they'd be in the best place to have read through the primary sources to discern her true birth date). All the other sources simply list the birth year. I'm not so sure Wikidata can be trusted on this one, either, the references listed for that one are CERL Thesaurus, Project Gutenberg, and the Online Books Page, but when I look up those respective sources I only see the year. And I don't think the gravestone is reliable, either! Her gravestone, and a number of sources, claim that she died in 1856 -- I'm pretty sure this is wrong, given that all the author profile stuff at CERL Thesaurus etc. list an 1855 death year, there are other reliable sources which give an 1855 death year, and a late 1855 article in The North American Review (cited in article) eulogizes her, which would make one think that she was dead at the time the article was written -- anyways, to make a long story short, I have no real objection to her birth date, but maybe we should note that her gravestone incorrectly lists her death date and let readers draw their own conclusions? RexSueciae (talk) 23:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]