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Actually, no she wasn't. Her birth was first announced in the local newspaper in 1969, which means that is the year she was born, contrary to any date mentioned elsewhere.
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Amanda Mannen (6 March 2021). "Music Mystery - No One Knows How Old Mariah Carey Is". Cracked.com. Even Wikipedia lists her birth year as "1969" or "1970," depending on the edit, and you'd better believe there's a heated talk page about it.
Marcus Gilmer (October 25, 2018). "Here are the most unforgettable Wikipedia vandalism trolls of all time". Mashable. RIP Mariah Carey: Few could forget Mariah Carey's painful New Year's Rockin' Eve performance on December 31, 2016, when a cold and confused Carey stumbled through some lip-syncing and eventually just gave up in the middle of a performance. She later blamed the whole mess on the show's producers. A week later, someone updated Carey's Wikipedia entry to declare her dead from embarrassment. Deceased. No more.
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Not done: She does not have a middle name. Tollens (talk) 23:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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YOUR RELATIONSHIPS FOR HER ARE NOT UP TO DATE. She is currently dating Evan Rabinowitz from 2022- Present. 70.160.102.115 (talk) 01:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: Who? Please provide a reliable source. Maxwell King123321 01:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mariah Carey was born in the year 1970 as per her Memoir, not the 1969 stated in the article. 121.200.4.189 (talk) 07:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can we please try to stick to facts in the lead paragraph. Yes, there are plenty of articles to be found where Carey is "regarded" as one of the greatest. But these amount to the opinion of one person. The lead should focus on facts. If these facts lead the reader to decide that she is the greatest, then that's fine, but unattributed opinions declaring it are not acceptable, and opinions about her can be left to the article body. Escape Orbit(Talk) 11:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was just coming here to mention this... Re: these latest edits - Carey is not regarded as one of the greatest singers in the history of music, she is known as one of the best singers in pop music per the Rolling Stone cited source. Shearonink (talk) 15:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at Jennifer Lopez, Ariana Grande, Beyonce pages they are just as puffery as Mariah’s. I get that she is not as huge of a legend as Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, David Bowie, or Elvis but it seems common now for A-list celebrities’ pages 2402:800:6105:C08C:F404:2A01:5B86:4B2B (talk) 11:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a subjective opinion and one that is not borne out by the sheer number of artists from successive generations that have cited Mariah as an influence. Edits regarding puffery are duly noted and have been edited on the Whitney Houston page, regarded as a peer and contemporary of Carey, for consistency. Cucas1234 (talk) 16:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say Mariah is not influential or who was more influential but clearly Houston was ranked higher than Mariah on the list that both pages cited (Houston 2nd, Mariah 5th). It would be more appropriate for both pages to quote exactly the name of the magazine and specific number that Houston and Mariah were ranked so it is more factual than just fan opinion. This puffery is happening with a alot pages like Elvis, Michael Jackson, David Bowie and current artists like Beyonce, Ariana Grande, jennifer Lopez. 2402:800:6105:C08C:2CBB:EB95:B085:D4F6 (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cucas1234 What's on other articles isn't a concern when ensuring that this article is at its best and follows Wikipedia guidelines. Fans comparing one article against the other, in an attempt to make their favourite appear best, is half the problem. Carey is a very popular and successful artist, as testfied and obvious by the facts. How she compares to other very popular and successful acts is always going to be largely a matter of subjective opinion, which should not be the focus of the lead, and should never be unattributed. Escape Orbit(Talk) 17:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:OTHERCONTENT/WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS comments about content... The lead section should stick to exactly what is in the cited sources that appear in the main body of the article text that support those lead statements. Carey is an amazing singer, she sold millions of records and Houston did as well. Trying to stuff the lead section of any singer's/musician's/artist's article full of all the possible accolades they might have gotten in their careers - along with editors POV descriptors that don't actually appear in the cited sources - doesn't serve any of these artists well. Yeah, let's stick to the verifiable facts in the lead. Shearonink (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The description of the lead image is "Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden and Santa Claus present pop superstar Mariah Carey with a framed certificate honoring her induction into the 2023 Library of Congress National Recording Registry"
Are we sure it's the Santa Claus? I believe it's the real Carla Hayden, but I've been stung by guys claiming to be Santa Claus before, just feel like we should confirm it's him, or make it clear that it might not be the man himself. 141.11.200.117 (talk) 17:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: Who? Please provide a reliable source. Maxwell King123321 01:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)