Talk:Manhattan Mini Storage

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Manhattan Mini Storage is the largest self storage company on the East Coast of the US. Is that not notable? If not, then can someone please tell me under what criteria a self storage company would be considered notable? Zillionaire 12:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a WP:RS citation for that assertion ... something other than a press release from MMS or other WP:COI source. —68.239.79.82 23:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Someone unrelated to the company has to write about it, pretty much. You could be the largest supplier of pork bellies in the USA, but you're not notable until someone has taken note of you. PumeleonT 12:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well I'm not related to this company. I wrote about it purely because it was a topic I thought of while writing about storage options for Columbia University students (see here). Zillionaire 12:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Read this. It more clearly states what I'm trying to say. PumeleonT 12:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. In the next 10 minutes or so, I'll include some secondary sources in the article. Zillionaire 12:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May speedy deletion tag be removed?[edit]

Is the article now sufficiently developed to remove the speedy deletion tag? As it stands now, I don't think any deletion should be performed without a deletion discussion. So perhaps a normal deletion tag would be more appropriate. Zillionaire 13:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The {{db-inc}} tag clearly states "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself" so I have restored it ... as for the references you have added, they still do not provide enough Attribution to satisfy Notability (organizations and companies), i.e.,

"A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of secondary sources."

Wikipedia articles must be based on reliable sources ... see WP:Reliable sources and WP:Verifiability#Sources of questionable reliability ... blogs and Google search results are not considered reliable sources by Wikipedia standards ... references to published books should at a minimum include an ISBN (see what happens when you click the one I added) ... use {{cite book}} to include page numbers, and {{cite news}} for newspaper articles ... the point is that if a source is not accessible from the web, then an editor should be able to go to a library and confirm it in print. —72.75.73.158 17:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still lacks WP:A to satisfy WP:CORP[edit]

It's been nearly a week since the {{db-inc}} was removed, and IMHO, this article still lacks sufficient Attribution to satisfy the criteria of Notability (organizations and companies) ... even though I have turned the explicit external links into proper {{cite book}} and {{cite web}} citations, references to blogs and the results of a Google Book Search on the subject's name are hardly reliable sources ... consequently, I intend to {{prod}} this article Real Soon Now, and we'll see if there is any improvement over the next five days before it expires.

Happy Editing! —68.239.79.82 (talk · contribs) 23:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging this article for speedy deletion[edit]

Hello ... I encountered this newly created article while performing New Page Patrol or Counter Vandalism Unit activities.

In my opinion it lacks sufficient Attribution to satisfy the Notability criteria Organizations and Companies ... or perhaps it reads like Vanispmcruftisment, or may violate Conflict of Interest.

The point is that I plan to tag this article with either a speedy delete (A7) or a {{prod}} that explains my concern(s) in detail ... I have created this initial entry on the article's Discussion page in the hope that Administrators and other editors, including the original author (Zillionaire (talk · contribs)), will also comment on their actions here.

Other experienced editors: Please see the protocol defined in What to do if a speedy delete tag is removed and try to keep the speedy delete process from occurring Too Quickly, like when a WikiNewbie creates a "work in progress" stub instead of using their own sandbox first. The important thing to remember about this new paradigm is

Flag it, then tag it, THEN frag it!

In other words, announce your intention to tag (flag the author and Discussion pages first), and have a "time-out" before proceeding with the tag ... and if the tag is removed, either proceed to the next step in the protocol, or else MOVE ON.
Administrators: If you do speedy delete this article, then in the spirit of WP:Please do not bite the newcomers, consider leaving a note on the Talk page for Zillionaire (talk · contribs) ... explain that you concur with the reasons for the speedy deletion, and have exercised your authority as an Administrator to delete it ... this should shorten the time it takes for the author to appeal for restoration of the article because it was just an unfinished "work in progress," or they neglected to tag it as a WP:STUB.
It would certainly require a little extra time and effort for you, but it may keep Some Other Editor from being blocked for reverting the deletion of tags after an article has been recreated, all because there was no paper trail ... after all, I took the time to start a message thread about this article on their Talk page, so all you have to do is append your own "stencil" message ... this is for that Very Small percentage of cases where a mistake has been made by being Too Hasty in our collective judgment of this article's unworthiness for inclusion in Wikipedia as presented for the first time. :-)

I think we can all agree that Haste is the Dark Side of the Speedy Deletion process, and these draft protocols are designed to "soften the blows" of the "iron fist in the velvet glove" ... for all of the parties involved.

Happy Editing! —68.239.79.82 17:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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POV tag[edit]

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