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added a critique to the mamistereotype. Two sentences that talked about how it is an unachievable beauty standard and assumes all Latinas must live up to it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justineveras (talk • contribs) 19:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

we both have a lot of work to do ! lol 1. i think you could look for more sources..i dont think the topic has been fully explored, so hopefully you can find something.
cant remember if we've read this in class but...http://macaulay.cuny.edu/eportfolios/scott12sem2courseblog/files/2012/04/Rivera-Hip-Hop-Puerto-Ricans-and-the-Ethnoracial-Identities-in-New-York.pdf
https://books.google.com/books?id=lYwUBRK_v2kC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=hispanic+women+image+in+hip+hop&source=bl&ots=sVSkBRSH_k&sig=_UekfoQmvBZlrQbACdx4u7Jd0o0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j7wdVdmeKOjhsATw3YCQBQ&ved=0CGkQ6AEwDw#v=onepage&q=hispanic%20women%20image%20in%20hip%20hop&f=false
— Preceding unsigned comment added by MBAILEY004 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC) 2. try to find where and when the term was first used and give the history of it.[reply]
3. someone also told me before theres a way to clean up your references, & also remember to check spelling. (hypersexualization)
include some artists that exploit/glorify this image and how.

just surfing and found some articles.

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=7lvvneExO1EC&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=latina+women+in+hip-hop+music+&ots=k-dqqntuF7&sig=KiCUKIKoiZnUKfDtkhR0bTNcMMk#v=onepage&q=latina%20women%20in%20hip-hop%20music&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=5PUFWAWoq2YC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=sexualization+of+latina+women+in+hip+ho%5B&source=bl&ots=xpqw3krf8d&sig=ciMghBE9Tk4gGNN8CinvppYB0go&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bb8dVbj-J7fPsQTBhYHoCA&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=sexualization%20of%20latina%20women%20in%20hip%20ho%5B&f=false
http://www.academia.edu/185453/Framing_Latinas_Hispanic_women_through_the_lenses_of_Spanish-language_and_English-language_news_media

Great, great start. Your classmates have hit some good points and I have a few comments to add: you might want to add scare quotes to the word "good" in the sentence about good hair; think about the order of your page (this is my biggest concern right now). I feel like the whole page is the mami in rap music so start there and then give the background of the term; not sure how virtual blackness will fit in here?; and lastly, you need a lot more references! --JustJess PhD (talk) 13:25, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i think you're doing a great topic. you are off to a good start, however, i don't see how latinos in rap music fits into the latino mami unless you're specifically talking about Latina artists or the latina mami in music videos and lyrics. i see that you already have a subtitle about that, so thats great.idk..just a suggestion. the hypersexualization should probably go before you define the latina mami, just to give readers background information on how they're oversexualized. there's this link to this book on google that might help. im not sure how to find the full version, but https://books.google.com/books?id=5PUFWAWoq2YC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=latina+women+in+hip+hop+culture&source=bl&ots=xpqt8spga8&sig=2gu2MTgjm6-ZJCUGy4GyXIjhSug&hl=en&sa=X&ei=icr4VN72EeO1sASCm4LIDA&ved=0CGIQ6AEwDA#v=onepage&q=latina%20women%20in%20hip%20hop%20culture&f=false.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013/10/10/220095469/mala-rodriguez-and-the-women-of-latin-hip-hop also, be sure to correct the spelling of Dominicans. lol. MBAILEY004 (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a great topic for this class.. I noticed you have the same citation listed as multiple citations. If you name the first citation when you make it by filling in the "ref name" line then you can click on the "named references" for subsequent references and it will fill it in automatically without duplication. I don't know what you have in mind for the "emergence" category but I think you could definitely touch on the history of hip hop there (and how Puerto Ricans were there from the beginning). After a tiny bit of googling "murda mamis" came up which would be an interesting addition because it is a group of women who self-identify as mamis. Also, is there enough information about "butta pecan mamis" for a subsection? It might help to at least explain what makes someone, like Jlo, a "butta pecan mami" specifically. Keep up the good work! Aeafournier (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking forward to reading about your topic more when you're all finished. One thought about your sandbox so far...the Present Day Representation made me wonder if the "mami in rap music" of today has changed in discourse from when it was first introduced? I think by having that topic title it implies that there is some sort of difference in how representation is in present day from the past. Not sure if you were already planning on it and just haven't gotten to it yet, but I think that might be a good thing to address. Kayla523 (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2015 (UTC) You are off to a great start.[reply]

I agree with Kayla definitely talk about when this time was first introduced. I know you mentioned Jennifer Lopez she is a great example. You might want to find other artist as well. Also discuss wether Latina mimi is still a term used today in popular culture.Tasha2015 (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... I am currently working on making this page more substantial, as it is part of a educational wikipedia course. There will be more substance added to it, due to the fact that it is an important topic within the field of hip hop, because the creation of the image of the Mami in Rap music has turned into a stereotype that many Latina women in hip hop are expected to fit into. It is an image that has history behind it and that needs to be addressed and expanded upon so that there is information about it in a localized and easy to access place, which makes Wikipedia a great place to have an article on this topic.--Tyeargin92 (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]