Talk:Malagueña (song)

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marching bands[edit]

A huge amount of marching bands perform this song, and I think of it more as identified with Blast! than anything else


To long-term drum corps fans, it's most linked to Madison Scouts...even before the 1988 version. Cadets played it in 2003 (I think), and while it was a good arrangement and performance, it's always a Madison chart for most I know.

Same way Boston's version of "La Fiesta" reminds me more of 84 Blue Devils' version -- but I was IN BD that year, so I'm a touch biased!


— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:ED00:3DB0:D57D:5056:DAC3:7FE0 (talk) 06:49, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a name that defines the song the way it's most often heard today: Bill Holman. His arrangement is the basis of the drum corps chart and probably the UMASS at Amherst chart. If you heard the song in Blast, that's a very tiny adaptation of the Holman arrangement. What I don't know was whether Amherst and the Scouts hired Bill Holman to write that adaptation of his original arrangement, or whether someone else adapted the Holman arrangement. Revbob 08:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Malaguena[edit]

Shouldn't we first provide a definition of what a Malaguena is before going into examples of it? A Malaguena is actually a Flamenco dance style from Malaga in south east Spain. Please see [1].
Furthermore, Malaguena is not a song written by Lecuona, it is actually a piano piece from his piano composition 'Suite Andalusia'. Please see Ernesto Lecuona.
Albeniz also composed a 'Malaguena', which is a piece from his famous piano composition - 'Espana', Opus 165.
Please correct this article accordingly.FRM SYD 04:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

many people believe this is a traditional melody first arranged for guitar by Tarrega, either prior to or independently from the first published arrangement by Lecuona -- comments and clarification welcome - Oniscoid (talk) 01:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tarrega died in 1909, so he definitely arranged it before Lecuona made his version in 1928, the moving bass line of the song is the distinctive melody, and it makes an appearance in every iteration of the song, so saying Lecuona "wrote Malaguena" is simply incorrect. It would be more accurate to say that he made an arrangement of the Spanish traditional melody. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.101.14 (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Esteban[edit]

I was thinking that this is the first piece that Esteban teaches on one of his instructional vidoes, but I'm not sure if it's the same song. Someone who knows should verify here. If so, it might be worth listing. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther! (contribs) 01:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Video of Stan Kenton Orchestra performance of Bill Holman's arrangement[edit]

I removed an external link and in-line reference to a dailymotion.com video as per wikipedia guidelines concerning links to copyright-violating material. The referenced dailymotion.com video clip of the Stan Kenton Orchestra playing "Malagueña" is presumably taken from the Shanachie Entertainment DVD, Jazz Scene USA - Frank Rosolino and Stan Kenton. This DVD includes Kenton's perfomance of "Malagueña" from a 1962 TV broadcast of Steve Allen's Jazz Scene USA program. If someone could provide evidence that the dailymotion.com video clip is posted by or with the permission of the copyright holder, then this link could be re-inserted in the article. Otherwise it should not be included. Pugetbill (talk) 23:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

seeking confirmation[edit]

I performed this song on the guitar on the streets in downtown dallas and a passer-by stopped and heard and then began to weep. I came to a finish to see if the man was alright. a friend had to interpret for me from spanish to english. The man said that the song traditionally was a about a wealthy daughter and a poor servant who could only burn for passion for one another and never pursue each other. Either die in regret or like Romeo and Juliette. However I have not seen any confirmation to this story other than the fact the man in the street wept saying the song reminded him of his mother and their likewise experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.231.244 (talk) 04:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oddcouple reference[edit]

reference 6 pointing to oddcouple.info/faq isn't working ("Forbidden --- You don't have permission to access /faq.html on this server. --- Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.") - Oniscoid 01:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The link to oddcouple.info is now working - Oniscoid 17:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The most famous version is...[edit]

There are multiple assertions in the article that "xxxx's" version of the song is "the most famous" or "the most well known." None include unambiguous citations that verify this claim. I will attempt to edit these claims using more moderate language. I hope other editors will correct my changes (and provide reliable sources / citations) if the original claims are, in fact, verifiably correct. Pugetbill (talk) 15:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yo Pugetbill (my guess is we live near each other).
Anyway, this reference is from Wiki's bio of Keith Richards:
<https://www.vice.com/en/article/rnwq5d/heres-the-story-of-the-first-time-keith-richards-played-the-guitar>.
Malagueña was the first song Richards learned, and it's the song he played for his mother as she lay dying.
I think it'd be worth mentioning here somewhere. Will-o-the-west (talk) 17:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Malaguena was a favourite of many American Surf music groups in the early 1960s, and was recorded many times. The Trashmen recorded the best-known version, on their Surfing Bird LP.