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Birth date[edit]

Conversion of Islamic and Christian dates (Dual) As per the date convertor, 242 AH earlier mention as birth year, corresponds to 856 CE, though most texts offer his death date to 1443 or 1485 CE, (see references in the article) --Ekabhishek (talk) 07:48, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Test edits or copy paste or what?[edit]

User:AMMAR9UL3ISLAM, I have to remove the enormous amounts of text you recently inserted into the article simple becasue I can't make sense of them.
Are they copy pasted from the Facebook links you posted?
Are they copy paste from somewhere else (I'm 99% sure this is a copy-paste job)?
Are you doing test edits on the article like you just were here on this talk page?
I'm sure you are trying to help, but there are so many errors here that I can't even begin to address them. It would help a lot if you would explain what exactly you're doing. The Wikipedia:Teahouse can also help you to get started editing. MezzoMezzo (talk)

For the record, the above comment of mine was posted on 25 March 2014. I don't know why the date didn't appear when I posted it.

Interesting that the article is facing the same issue four years later, as can be seen in the section below this one. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:45, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possible advertising coupled with deletion of sources[edit]

@Jibranjafri: I'm posting this on the relevant talk page just to make a note here. Please keep in mind that I'm trying to help your editing experience be a more productive and positive one.
I noticed that you've been making edits across several articles promoting a lesser known Sufi order known as the Madariyya. Several edits of yours have been used to promote some sort of phone application on the main article, and a random account did the same thing a few months ago. This is in addition to deletion of reliable sources, which you've done twice on that article.
I would recommend a decent review of the site's policies on editing to advertise and edit warring. Even if you aren't the developer of the app in question, promoting it through articles isn't allowed. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i am not promoting for my personle benefit[edit]

I am changing right thing in page madariyya or i am not promoting any phone app i am only wanna link app to people who come wikipedia to get info for madariiya silsila and i humbly request you pls dont change what i change in madariyya page.. thanku Jibranjafri (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jibranjafri: This time, it wasn't me who reverted your edit; it was a bot which identified your edits as possible vandalism. It's not difficult to see why: you deleted a reliable source, which looks a bit like vandalism even if it isn't. The deletion of a reliable source is a problem in light of preservation under editing policy: we're not supposed to delete useful portions of the encyclopedia.

Also, you once again inserted the claim that an individual associated with this order lived to be 600 years old. That isn't "right thing" as you put it. Also, please stop linking to the app per WP:LINKNO. I know that this is a lot to read, but there are problems with your edits in several ways, so I do believe that a review of the links above might help you to contribute more positively to pages like this. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:41, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@mezzomezzo syed badi ud madar lived 596 years and this is right u know he born 242 a.h and its damm true and u mentioned he came to india with jahangir ashraf simnani bt madar came to india at 282 a.h. that time jahangir ashraf simnani or other wali allah example moin uddin chishti & abdul qadir jilani was not born so how u claimed that he came along with jahangir ashraf simnani ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jibranjafri (talk • contribs) 17:31, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jibranjafri: I'm sorry, sir/ma'am, but if you're asking that Wikipedia reflect your belief that a person lived to be 600 years old, then that raises a number of other issues. You should read WP:RNPOV in that case. You're free to believe whatever you want, and reliable sources could reflect that certain people believe that, but you can't state that life span as a fact in the article, especially while deleting an actual reliable source in the process (which you've done more than once). MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:30, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@mezzomezzo dear i know what i am saying and its true he live almost 600 year. I have a qus for u as u wrote that his peer is bayazid bustami and shah madar died at 1434 ce so a person(bayazid bustami) who died 262 a.h. so how he met bayazid bustami ? Dear mezzomezzo he is wali allah and allah provide him 596 years of age. Shajra of badi uddin madar is badi ud uddin madar his peer bayazid bustami his peer habib ajmi his peer hasan basri his peer imam Ali his peer prophet mohammad s.a.w.

Shajra e nasab(family tree) of badiuddin madar is Badiuddin madar s/o kidvat uddin ali halbi s/o baha uddin halbi s/o zahiruddin s/o ismeel saani s/o mohammad ahamd s/o mohammad ismaeel s/o imam jafar al sadiq s/o imam baqar s/o imam zainul abedeen ali ibne hussain s/o imam hussain s/o imam ali (son-in-law) prophet mohammad sallalaho aleyhi wassallam.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jibranjafri (talk • contribs) 08:07, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your entire experience with Wikipedia will change if you take time to read and understand the policies I linked for you above. Arguing in circles about your personal beliefs isn't what builds articles on this website. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:30, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sir/ma'am policies is only for personale benefit if an article is provide wrong info for a well known wali allah then what's people think about wikipedia and you are saying policies Jibranjafri (talk) 09:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. Could you rephrase it? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:20, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]