Talk:M16 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage

GA Review

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Reviewer: ErrantX (talk · contribs) 16:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I am happy to review this.

Lead

• The lead is a good summary of the article, but might be improved with some notes about when it came out of service and the total number(s) built. Done
• In the Korean War, it was used mainly in the ground support role, which it succeeded in.; fragments, consider revising (personally I would say something like: Over the M16's lifetime aircraft became more advanced, limiting it's usefulness as an anti-air weapon. During the Korean war it was used successfully in a ground support role until it was taken out of service by the US Army in 1951). Done

Specification

• armor; consider linking to vehicle armor Done

Development

• Overall I feel this section could be expanded with a lot more detail, the reader is left needing to read 2-3 more articles to fill in gaps. Done
• It was based on an earlier model of the M13 (the T1E2), but the M33 Maxson mount was replaced with the M45 Quadmount.; what were the T1E2 features (I notice the M13 article has some detail that is relevant here). Done}
• produced by the White Motor Company during the period from May 1943 to March 1944; I might have lead the section with this information. Done

Service

• As soon as it entered service; repetition from previous sentence, consider revising Done
• It was nicknamed "The Meat Chopper"; slightly confusing because you might be referring to the M16 or the M13 (subject of the previous sentence) - the latter is inferred by your later reference to and the M16 . Consider revising. Done
• The M16 was similar to the M5-based M17 MGMC and related models of the German SdKfz 251 half-track.; similar in what way? This sentence seemed out of place to the context of the paragraph. Done
• During the Korean War, it was used in both the anti-aircraft and the ground support roles, although it was mainly used for the latter, since aircraft had become harder to shoot down with anti-aircraft (AA) guns by that time.; long, fragmented sentence. Consider revising. Done
• even though; although? Done

Variants

• supplied under Lend Lease to the USSR. A total of 1,000 were produced by International Harvester from December 1943 to March 1944.[12] Up to half of the Soviet Union's air defense forces consisted of M17s.[13]; seems out of place in this section compared to other entries (which are quick descriptions). Maybe move it elsewhere in the article?
  • I would have just linked it to the relevant article, but that is all what the article would have stated, so I merged it a few weeks ago.--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 21:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
    • Aye. My suggestion would be to merge that additional sentence into "Development", but it's not critical for GA status --Errant ^(chat!) 09:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

General Comments

A decent little article (I appreciate the difficulty of writing about things with limited resource/material). Apart from some relatively minor prose issue, I think the only really GA-limiting problem is the detail missing from the specification section.

Please feel free to reply inline. I will add additional comments above as I re-read. --Errant ^(chat!) 16:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing those bits, the article is clearly okay on neutrality and related issues, I've done an image review and all is okay. Just doing a source review now. --Errant ^(chat!) 09:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Crew number

New user.

Could someone please change the crew number to 5 (Commander, driver, gunner and two loaders)?

“The M16 was based on the M3 personnel carrier half-track. It had a crew of five: commander, driver, gunner and two loaders.” </ref>https://www.army.mil/article/87246/students_learn_from_wwii_weapon<ref>

Thanks!

574thSPBN (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)