Talk:M101 howitzer

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Merge from M101A1[edit]

M-56 Howitzer 105mm (Towed) on display at Fort Sam Houston, Texas (March 2007). According to the display sign, it was recovered north of Kuwait City in February 1991.

This appears to be the same gun called the M101 howitzer in the List of artillery page. I'm going to move this page to their and leave this as a redirect. Lisiate 01:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not exactly the same gun, and the M101A1 was the howitzer in general use when I directed its fire a number of times in South Vietnam as a Marine Corps forward observer. But the differences were not operational, just designed to make it easier to machine, if I remember correctly. Seems like a sensible change to me.
Phil Stoner
Agree, these articles should be merged. Bukvoed 19:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with merging the articles into M101 howitzer. --Edward Sandstig 23:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Already merged the two articles. Will attempt to reintegrate more of what was written on the M101A1 article into this article later today. --Edward Sandstig 01:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


M-65[edit]

Should no mention be made of the license production of the M2/M101 gun/howitzer in the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia as the M-65 (although some sources say it is M-56). I think it is quite significant that a country in the Communist-bloc license manufactured a US howitzer and it speaks exceptionally well about the quality of the design. 72.146.187.38 02:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)SAWGunner89[reply]

It was mentioned in the M101A1 article and apparently was lost during the merge of the articles. Fixed. Thanks. Bukvoed 08:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yugoslavia had a fairly "good" relationship with NATO countries. Politically, it had positioned itself between Communist countries and Western nations (to Stalin's chagrin). As a result, Yugoslavia ended up using some NATO equipment. --71.172.37.93 (talk) 01:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Moved from article page as it was not well integrated into the presentation - "(M56 is copy of German 10.5 cm leFH 18 howitzer not USA M101 but it use 105mm USA ammo)". Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 05:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Moved from article page as it appears to be wrong - "Yugoslavia manufactured the M101 as the M-56, and 100 of these were inherited by Croatia." Jane's Armour and Artillery 1981-82 notes the M-56 is a copy of the German 10.5-cm M18/40, although the M-56 uses semi-fixed ammunition unlike the original German howitzer. Also, on the M-56 vs M-65 issue, JAA notes the M-65 was a copy of the U.S. M114 155-mm howitzer. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 05:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use of M101 by services[edit]

It would be nice if this article could include details about the use of the M2 or M101 howitzer not only by country, but also by service of a particular country. In the Philippines for example, this artillery piece is still used by the Philippine Army and by the Philippine Marine Corps. It was also used by the defunct Philippine Constabulary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.93.16.162 (talk) 10:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Related to that point, I notice the article is written in the past tense. This is inappropriate. I'll have to remember to come back and fix that when I get the chance!Nojamus (talk) 03:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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South Korea section gets undue weight section[edit]

Quite a lot of other weapon pages has procurement & operation section per each country. Also adding some historical background and information from the actual person involved is a worth noting. If there's nothing provided as citation to counterclaim the information written on the section, the tag will be removed. Kadrun (talk) 08:58, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The South Korea section is excessively and inappropriately detailed, contains WP:EDITORIAL and WP:TRIVIA, and as a result gives undue bias to the importance of South Korea in the weapon's history. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 09:09, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I can move back to KH178 105 mm Towed Howitzer development section. Also it explains how much the US was / is involved politically and technically. Let me know. Let's hear from more people, and I'll edit it appropriately. Kadrun (talk) 09:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think @GraemeLeggett: would be the first person to contact regarding this. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 09:54, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For what my opinion is worth, the South Korea section is poorly written (grammar/idiom), contains unnecessary detail. It needs editing in place rather than being a burden on any other article. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clear up. Kadrun (talk) 02:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Did more editing to simplify and correcting. I think current version is good? Let me know. Kadrun (talk) 10:11, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Better, but still not good [enough]. Not idiomatically English yet. But without English language sources I can't tell what the content/meaning should be. GraemeLeggett (talk) 14:42, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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